Determining whether two functions are linear independent via wronskian

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The discussion revolves around determining the linear independence of pairs of functions using the Wronskian. The specific functions under consideration are f(t)=3t and g(t)=|t| for the first pair, and f(x)=x² and g(x)=4|x|² for the second pair.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Wronskian for both pairs of functions to assess their linear independence. They express uncertainty regarding their conclusion for the second pair, suspecting an error in their calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in the discussion, with some questioning the calculations of the Wronskian and suggesting that the original poster may have made an error in their reasoning. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between the functions and their derivatives.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the properties of the absolute value function and its derivatives, which may affect the calculations of the Wronskian.

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Homework Statement



Determine which of the following pairs of functions are linearly independent.

(a) f(t)=3t,g(t)=|t|

(b) f(x)=x^{2},g(x)=4|x|^{2}

Homework Equations



the Wronskian is defined as,

W=Det{{f(u),g(u)},{f'(u),g'(u)}}

if {f(u),g(u)} are linearly dependent, W=0

if W=/=0, {f(u),g(u)} are linearly independent

The Attempt at a Solution



The assumed interval for the independent variables t,x are x,t \in (-\infty,\infty)

for (a),

I determined W(t)=3t-3|t|, which for x>0 is W(t)=3t-3t=0.
for x<0 we have W(t)=-3t-3t=-6t. Since for some value of t \in (-\infty,\infty) I found a W(t) \neq 0 I can conclude that the functions f(t) and g(t) are linearly independent.

Now for (b),

Similarly to (a), I find a W(x)=8x^{2}|x|-8|x|^{2}x

for x&gt;0 : W(x)=8x^{3}-8x^{3}=0
for x&lt;0 : W(x)=8(-x)^{2}|-x|-8|-x|^{2}(-x)=8x^{3}+8x^{3}=16x^{3}\neq 0

Similarly I conclude that f(x) and g(x) are linearly independent since I found values of x which make the wronskian not equal to 0.

However, while my conclusion is correct for (a), (b) is supposedly linearly dependent.

Is my method correct? if so what mistake did I make in concluding that the functions of (b) were linearly independent?

Thanks
 
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|x|^2 is equal to x^2.
 
Yes,

I use that fact, but I still find that for
x&lt;0 : W(x)=8(-x)^{2}|-x|-8(-x)^{3}=8x^{3}+8x^{3}=16x^{3}

Am I just completely missing something here?
 
Your calculation of W(x)=8x^{2}|x|-8|x|^{2}x is wrong. Just use that |x|^2=x^2 from the beginning, so g(x)=4x^2.
 
The specific place where your calculations are incorrect is$$
\frac d {dx}|x|^2 = 2|x|$$is false.
 
Ah, I see. Thank you
 

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