Difference between A and B irreps

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The discussion clarifies the differences between one-dimensional irreducible representations (irreps) A and B in group theory, specifically within the context of the D_2 point group. Irrep A is symmetric under rotation about the principal axis, while irrep B is antisymmetric. The character table indicates that B1 has a character of 1 under the principal rotation, which raises questions about its designation. The participants conclude that the equivalence of the three axes in the D_2 group allows for flexibility in defining the principal axis, unlike in higher-order groups such as D_3 and D_4.

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In my understanding, in group theory the one-dimensional irrep A differs from the one-dimensional irrep B in the symmetry under rotation about the principal axis: A is when the state is symmetric and B is when the state is antisymmetric under that rotation. However, I find in the character table of point group D that B1 has a character of 1 under the principal rotation operation while B2 and B3 have a character of -1.
Why the irrep is called B1 even though it has a character of 1 when rotated about the principal axis?
 
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Do you mean the group D_2?

There are three B irreps there. I think because it is not clear what the principal rotation axis is: the three axes are equivalent.
 
ngonyama said:
Do you mean the group D_2?

There are three B irreps there. I think because it is not clear what the principal rotation axis is: the three axes are equivalent.
Thanks for the reply.. Yes, I meant D_2 group.. But why are the 3 axes equivalent? I thought the rule is that one principal axis in the system is chosen to define the properties of the irreps. Say we choose the z-axis to define the principal axis, B1 behaves like A2
 
Well, they are all two-fold axes. So, which one you choose to be the unique z-axis is really up to you. In groups like D_3 D_4 that is not so because one is a three- or fourfold and perpendicular to that you have twofolds. So then you should pick the higher order axis to be the main z-axis.
 

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