Difference Between Electromagnetic & Magnetic Fields and Shielding

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The discussion explores the differences between electromagnetic fields and magnetic fields, particularly focusing on their nature and the effectiveness of shielding materials against these fields. Participants also inquire about the possibility of achieving perfect shielding and the characteristics of materials that can provide such shielding.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that electromagnetic fields consist of both electric and magnetic components, while static fields can be purely electric or purely magnetic.
  • One participant describes the mechanisms of shielding electric and magnetic fields, noting that electric fields are shielded through charge redistribution in conductors, while magnetic fields can be shielded through eddy currents and high permeability materials.
  • There is a suggestion that achieving 100% shielding is impossible, with a participant noting that the thickness of the shielding material affects its effectiveness.
  • Another participant expresses surprise at the thickness required for effective shielding, initially believing that a few millimeters of foil would suffice.
  • One participant mentions the use of superconductors and the Meissner effect as an exotic method for magnetic shielding.
  • A question is raised about the existence of materials that can allow fields to pass in one direction while opposing them in the other, likening it to a mirror's properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mechanisms of shielding but express differing views on the effectiveness of various materials and the feasibility of achieving near-perfect shielding. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the possibility of directional shielding for static fields.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of fields and shielding effectiveness, as well as the unresolved nature of the thickness required for effective shielding against static magnetic fields.

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I would like to know whether there is any difference in Electromagnetic field and Magnetic field. I know their source but I'm curious to know whether they are different in nature?
I also wants to know whether Magnetic Shield Material works same way on Electromagnetic or Electrical field?

Can we shield the field 100%? e.g. If I have strong neo magnet of cube shape 1x1x1 inch of 1.4 T, can I enclose it using cubical shield? What would be thickness of shielding material for this case?
 
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Electromagnetic fields contain both an electric field component, and a magnetic field component (as I imagine you know). The ratio of the electric field to the magnetic field (E/H) is known as the wave impedance, the higher the wave impedance the larger the electric component compared to the magnetic component.

A field can be purely electric or purely magnetic only if it is static.

Conductors provide shielding of electric fields and magnetic fields by different mechanisms that I will describe:

Electric fields are shielded by charge redistribution within the conductor. Static E fields can be shielded this way, charges in the shielding conductor shift to new positions and stay there when the static E field is applied.

Magnetic fields are "shielded" by two other mechanisms:

1 - Magnetic fields are shielded by inducing eddy currents in the shield conductor, and by Lenz' law the magnetic fields caused by the eddy currents cancel the incident field. However, eddy currents are only formed when magnetic field is changing. Thus static magnetic fields cannot be shielded in this way. This mechanism involves expelling magnetic field from the conductor, not allowing it to penetrate (the amount of penetration is known as skin depth).

2 - Magnetic fields can provide "shielding" by doing the opposite, deliberately enticing the magnetic field into the "shield". Shielding of low frequency magnetic fields using high permeability metals uses this method. The idea here is that the magnetic field will follow the path of lowest reluctance, which is within the high per metal, thus diverting it away from what you are trying to "shield" it from. In this case eddy currents are your enemy and methods are used to reduce them.


To your last question:
Can we shield a field 100%? You know nothing in the real world is 100% right (unless you are rounding off). Your permanent magnet emits a static magnetic field, you would need to apply the second method, high perm material around it. The permanent magnet has lines of flux connecting its poles. This flux will prefer path of least reluctance (just as electrical current prefers path of least resistance), and the high perm material provides a low reluctance path. However, the reluctance is not 0, not *all* of the flux will go through the shield. You will get closer to your 100% if the shield is a mile thick than if it is one inch thick, just depends on how close to 100% you want to get.
 
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Thank you for your response EMI Guy. I should have mentioned near perfect and not 100%. But based on your response it seems it is way way thick than what I imagined. I thought 1-3 mm thick foil might be sufficient to shield the field.
Also Is there anything which can pass field in one direction and oppose it in other direction? e.g. in mirror you can see from front side and from back side everything is blocked.
 
Regular conductive foil (i.e. copper, aluminium) will not shield your static magnetic field. You would need to use a metal with permeability (look up mu-metal, 2nd method I described above). Only time varying magnetic fields can be shielded with foil (via. Lenz's law).

By the way, there is also the exotic method of using superconductors for magnetic shielding. This involves a quantum mechanical phenomenon known as the Meissner effect.

I don't think there is any way to make a directional shield for static fields.
 

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