Difference between Hamiltonian operator and Total energy operator?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distinction between the Hamiltonian operator and the Total energy operator within the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore whether these operators are equivalent or if they serve different purposes in equations such as the time-dependent and time-independent Schrödinger equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the Hamiltonian operator and the Total energy operator are essentially the same, as indicated by the equation H ψ = E ψ.
  • Others express confusion regarding the terminology, noting that different contexts in textbooks may lead to the perception of them being distinct operators.
  • A participant points out a common misconception where the left-hand side of the time-dependent Schrödinger equation is incorrectly referred to as the energy operator, clarifying its actual role in describing the evolution of the wave function.
  • There is mention of different interpretations or "pictures" in quantum mechanics, such as the Heisenberg and interaction pictures, which further complicate the understanding of these operators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the Hamiltonian operator and the Total energy operator are different or the same, with multiple competing views remaining in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential for misunderstanding due to varying definitions and contexts in quantum mechanics literature, as well as the different roles operators play in various formulations of quantum theory.

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What is the difference between the Hamiltonian operator and the Total energy operator? If both is used when working with total energy, why are there two different operators?
 
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They are both sides to the same equation. Hamiltonian = H and total energy = E.
H \psi = E \psi
 
annms said:
What is the difference between the Hamiltonian operator and the Total energy operator? If both is used when working with total energy, why are there two different operators?

As far as I am aware, they are one and the same. What was the context that led you to think they might be different?
 
Thank you for the responses guys. Forgive me for asking such a stupid question, I am a newbie to quantum mechanics. I was just reading my textbook and it first listed the total energy operator, then a few pages later it listed the Hamiltonian operator. It just looked very different than the total energy operator to me so I guess I was confused. Thanks again for the responses.
 
In the time-dependent Schrödinger Equation (ih ∂/∂t) ψ = H ψ, people sometimes mistakenly refer to the left hand side ih ∂/∂t as the energy operator. It is not, of course, it merely describes how ψ(x, t) evolves with time. It does not appear in the time-independent Schrödinger equation H ψ = E ψ, and it appears but has a different meaning in other "pictures", e.g. the Heisenberg picture in which (ih ∂/∂t) ψ = 0 and the time evolution is cast onto the operators themselves, or the interaction picture in which (ih ∂/∂t) ψ = Hint ψ where Hint is the interaction Hamiltonian.
 

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