Different versions of Falkner-Skan equation

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The discussion revolves around the different versions of the Falkner-Skan equations, which are used in boundary layer theory. Participants are exploring the distinctions between these versions, including their derivations and underlying assumptions.

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  • One participant presents three different versions of the Falkner-Skan equations and questions the differences between them.
  • Another participant asks for sources of the different versions and suggests that the differences may stem from the assumptions made during their derivation.
  • A participant provides sources for each version, indicating that the first version is from Schlichting's Boundary Layer Theory, the second from an MIT open course, and the third from a recitation of that class.
  • It is noted that the differences may relate to the choice of similarity variable, with a participant suggesting that the behavior of the equations is effectively the same despite the variations in normalization.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the differences between the versions of the Falkner-Skan equations, and multiple competing views remain regarding their derivations and implications.

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The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the equations, including the dependence on the definitions of variables and the assumptions made during derivation. Specific mathematical steps and normalization choices are also noted as areas that may contribute to the differences.

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So I have seen 3 different version of the Falkner-Skan equations and I am wondering what is the difference between them?

The first version :
$$ F'''+FF''+\beta (1-F^{'2})=0\\\\
\beta=\frac{2m}{m+1}\\\\
U_e=aX^m $$

Second version:
$$F'''+\frac{m+1}{2}FF''+m(1-F^{'2})=0\\\\
U_e=aX^m $$

Third version :
$$F'''+(m+1)FF''+m(1-F^{'2})=0\\\\
U_e=aX^m $$

If I plus the formula for beta into the first equation I get ##\frac{m+1}{2}(F'''+FF'')+m(1-F^{'2})=0##
Clearly its not the same.
 
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Do you have the sources where you saw the different versions?

If by plus ##\beta## you mean multiple by ##\frac{1}{\beta}## and ##\beta## is now defined as ##\beta=\frac{2}{m+1}##, that looks okay. As for the difference between the F-S equations you're seeing, I'd first look at what assumptions were made during the derivation.

It'd be my guess that you'd find the answer there, or I could be totally wrong.
 
Thanks for your reply!

So the second version came from this book from some MIT open course
https://learning-modules.mit.edu/service/materials/groups/166456/files/3079b99e-d885-4950-a04a-21486cb994ec/link?errorRedirect=/materials/index.html
Chapter 3 Page 41of the above link.

The first version came from Schlichting's Boundary Layer Theory 9ed pg 169
But also I found it in the pages I posted below. (here there is a moving ramp in opposite direction of freestream and also suction at wall)
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The third version came from a recitation of that class whose book was above. The only difference is it is not divided by a 2.
 

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The difference is the choice of similarity variable. The behavior of all of the equations is effectively the same but the variables have been normalized slightly differently. It's similar to how you can find two versions of the Blasius equation.
 
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