Differential Equation - Bernoulli Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form y'(t) = -4y + 6y^3, which some participants identify as a Bernoulli equation. There is uncertainty regarding the classification of the equation and the methods to apply for its solution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods to tackle the equation, including variable separation and integration techniques. There is a discussion about the appropriateness of identifying the equation as a Bernoulli equation, with some suggesting it can be approached as a separable equation instead. Questions arise about the integration process and the use of partial fractions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing confusion at various stages of the solution process. Some guidance on using partial fractions is provided, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach. The discussion remains open-ended, with participants seeking clarification and further assistance.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential constraints regarding the requirement to solve for y explicitly, as well as the possibility of leaving the solution in implicit form. Participants also note a lack of clarity about the variables involved in the equation.

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Homework Statement


solve the differential equation
[tex]y'(t)=-4y+6y^3[/tex]

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I'm pretty sure (not positive) that this is a Bernoulli Equation.
I've been following this wiki in an attempt to solve: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli_differential_equation
[tex](y'(t)=-4y+6y^3)/y^3[/tex]
[tex]y'(t)/y^3=-4/y^2+6[/tex]
[tex]w=1/y^2[/tex]
[tex]y'(t)*w/y=-4w+6[/tex]

I'm stuck here, also there's no x's or t's here so I am not sure that it is a Bernoulli Equation?

thanks for any help
 
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dy/dt = 6y^3 - 4y. This is a variable separable differential equation, no Bernoulli pangs required. dy/(y)(6y^2 - 4) = dt. Integrate the LHS preferably using partial fractions and voila.
 
[tex]dy/dt=-4y+6y^3[/tex]
[tex]dy/(y(-4+6y^2))=dt[/tex]
[tex]u=y^2, du =2y dy[/tex]
[tex]=1/2 \int 1/(u(6u-4))[/tex]
etc etc etc
[tex]t=1/8 (ln(3y^2-2)-2ln(y))+c[/tex]
[tex]8t-c=ln((3y^2-2)/(y^2))[/tex]
[tex]ce^t=(3y^2-2)/y^2[/tex]

I am again stuck, how do I get y=----- out of this??

Thanks
 
Mate, you need to use partial fractions to separate the denominator and integrate on each term separately.

gif.latex?\frac{1}{y(6y^{2}-4)}%20=%20\frac{A}{y}%20+%20\frac{B}{6y^{2}-4}.gif


Find A and B using the concept of partial fractions (this page is pretty neat...teaches you everything you need to know about them : http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~kouba/CalcTwoDIRECTORY/partialfracdirectory/PartialFrac.html), then multiply dy on both sides of the equation and integrate term by term.

gif.latex?\int\frac{dy}{y(6y^{2}-4)}%20=%20A\int\frac{dy}{y}%20+%20B\int\frac{dy}{6y^{2}-4}.gif
 
pat666 said:
[tex]dy/dt=-4y+6y^3[/tex]
[tex]dy/(y(-4+6y^2))=dt[/tex]
[tex]u=y^2, du =2y dy[/tex]
[tex]=1/2 \int 1/(u(6u-4))[/tex]
etc etc etc
[tex]t=1/8 (ln(3y^2-2)-2ln(y))+c[/tex]
[tex]8t-c=ln((3y^2-2)/(y^2))[/tex]
[tex]ce^t=(3y^2-2)/y^2[/tex]

I am again stuck, how do I get y=----- out of this??

Thanks

From
[tex]ce^t= \frac{3y^2- 2}{y^2}[/tex]
multiply both sides by [itex]y^2[/itex]:
[tex]ce^ty^2= 3y^2- 2[/tex]

[tex]3y^2- ce^ty^2= 2[/tex]
[tex](3- ce^t)y^2= 2[/tex]

Can you finish that?

(Does the problem require that you solve for x? Solutions to first order equations are often left as implicit functions.)
 
certainly can:
[tex]y=sqrt(2/((3-ce^t)))[/tex]
I think that's right? and it keeps me away from partial fractions which I forgot about 3yrs ago.

Thanks svxx and Hallsofivy

edit:

oops, I used partial fractions in the integrations, guess I remember procedures and not names of said procedures...
 
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