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Differential Equation, finding values

  1. Nov 18, 2011 #1
    Question:
    Find the values of ω for which y=cosωt satisfies d^2y/dt^2 +81y = 0
    where ω1<ω2


    I guess I'm just having a lot of problem even figuring out how to do these at all. Since it's a second degree problem, I found the derivative of y=cosωt, which is -sin(ωt)*ω, and I found the derivative of that to be cos(ωt)*ω. I then set ωcos(ωt)=81cos(ωt).
    Am I going about this right at all?
     
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  3. Nov 18, 2011 #2

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    Welcome to PF, KCEWMG! :smile:

    You're doing fine, except that you dropped an omega factor from your 1st to your 2nd derivative.
    After correcting that, divide both sides of your equation by cos wt.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2011 #3
    Alright!

    So instead of what I had, it is instead -sin(tω)-tωcos(ωt)=81cos(ωt)
    Then I get the -tan(ωt)-tω=81
    This might be basic algebra, but where do I go from here? I don't think that I can take an ω out because it's the tangent of ω, right?
     
  5. Nov 18, 2011 #4

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    Errr... you have mangled your 2nd derivative now, I'm afraid.
    You almost had it right before.

    What did you do to get the derivative of -sin(ωt)*ω?
     
  6. Nov 18, 2011 #5
    Well, I did it again and got a new answer...
    After using the product rule, I got ((cos(ωt)ω)ω-sin(ωt)=81cos(ωt)
    Which gets me ω^2=81+sin(ωt)
    Right?
     
  7. Nov 18, 2011 #6

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    Let's focus on the derivative first.
    Since you're differentiating with respect to t, the derivative of ω is not 1 but 0.
     
  8. Nov 18, 2011 #7
    OH!! So the final answer is positive and negative 9!
    I understand. Thank you!!
     
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  10. Nov 18, 2011 #9
    Alright, the next problem is to find the values of K for which y=x^2+k is a solution to the differential equation 2y-xy'=14.
    After that, I figured that 2(x^2+k)-x(2x+k)=14.
    I then distributed and solved that k = 14/(2-x).
    I put K into the equation y=x^2+(14/2-x).
    After doing all of this, I got that y=0.
    Now what?
     
  11. Nov 18, 2011 #10

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    Let's focus on the derivative of y first.
    You seem to have made the same mistake as in the previous problem...
     
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