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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation from Lagrangian mechanics, specifically the equation \(y^3y^{\prime\prime} = ay + b\). The user attempts to transform this equation into a first-degree form using the substitution \(u(y) = \frac{dy}{dx}\). The calculations lead to the expression \(u^2 = -2\frac{a}{y} - 4\frac{b}{y^2} + C\), prompting a query about the correctness of the coefficients and the integration process. A participant suggests that the coefficient of the second term should be -1 to ensure proper differentiation and integration.

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Homework Statement


I have differential equation;] this is equation from central force thing in Lagrange mechanics, you know, you know, its second order hahaha:D
[tex]y^3y^{\prime\prime}=ay+b[/tex]

Homework Equations


I will using method of making a first degree of this equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I have
[tex]\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=u(y)[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\mbox{d}^2y}{\mbox{d}x^2}=\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}x}=\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=u\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}[/tex]
and now I enter this new equation to before:
[tex]uy^3\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}=ay+b[/tex]
[tex]u\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}=\frac{ay+b}{y^3}[/tex]
[tex]u^2=-2\frac{a}{y}-4\frac{b}{y^2}+C[/tex]
[tex]u=\frac{\sqrt{Cy^2-2ay-4b}}{y}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{y}{\sqrt{Cy^2-2ay-4b}}\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=1[/tex]
someone who is good in mathematic, please tell me if this calculations was good and what can I do now, I was thinking about do this with area functions, but not sure, please tell me simplest way to solve it;] thank you!
 
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Homework Statement


I have differential equation;] this is equation from central force thing in Lagrange mechanics, you know, you know, its second order hahaha:D
[tex]y^3y^{\prime\prime}=ay+b[/tex]

Homework Equations


I will using method of making a first degree of this equation

The Attempt at a Solution


I have
[tex]\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=u(y)[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\mbox{d}^2y}{\mbox{d}x^2}=\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}x}=\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=u\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}[/tex]
and now I enter this new equation to before:
[tex]uy^3\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}=ay+b[/tex]
[tex]u\frac{\mbox{d}u}{\mbox{d}y}=\frac{ay+b}{y^3}[/tex]
[tex]u^2=-2\frac{a}{y}-4\frac{b}{y^2}+C[/tex]
[tex]u=\frac{\sqrt{Cy^2-2ay-4b}}{y}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{y}{\sqrt{Cy^2-2ay-4b}}\frac{\mbox{d}y}{\mbox{d}x}=1[/tex]
someone who is good in mathematic, please tell me if this calculations was good and what can I do now, I was thinking about do this with area functions, but not sure, please tell me simplest way to solve it;] thank you!

What is that -4 in [tex]u^2=-2\frac{a}{y}-4\frac{b}{y^2}+C[/tex]? It must be -1 since if you take the derivative of the second term wrt y, a 2y would appear in the numerator which cancels out a factor 1/2 coming from another side so the term b/y^3 is then retrieved. Now that dx should be brought to the other side of equation and then there you are left with a simple integration. Just note that since you are taking the root of [tex]u^2=-2\frac{a}{y}-4\frac{b}{y^2}+C[/tex], don't forget to have a sign [tex]\pm[/tex] accompanied with the radical.

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