Differential Equations: Second Order Equations

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a particular solution for a second-order differential equation of the form y'' + 5y' + 6y = 4 - t^2. Participants are exploring the appropriate form for the particular solution in relation to the polynomial on the right-hand side.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the form of the particular solution, with one suggesting y = a(t^2) + b and another proposing y = at^2 + bt + c. There is uncertainty about how to handle the terms in the equation and whether the initial guesses are sufficient.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the adequacy of their initial guesses for the particular solution. There is a realization that the approach may need adjustment, and one participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the need to cancel terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the polynomial degree on their choice of particular solution and the calculations involved in substituting their guesses into the differential equation.

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Homework Statement



find a particular solutions for the given differentiable equation.

Homework Equations



y''+5y'+6y=4-t^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Because the right-hand side is a polynomial of degree 1, so I want to have a particular solution of the same form. It's like y=a(t^2)+b, but if so, I kinda stuck in the middle of calculation. 6a=-1 (this is fine) and 2a+10at+6b=4 (I want to take out t). i need to use this technique. Please help me find what's wrong here.

Thank you so much!
 
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it seems that your original guess at the particular solution is a bit lacking. your choice for y(t) is missing something... can you guess what it is missing?
 
yea, I realized that, but I don't kno what's missing...that's a problem.
 
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You should guess y=at2+bt+c, and I'll even tell you why.

Let y=at2+b

If you plug that into y''+5y'+6y, you get:

2a +5(2at) +6(at2+b) = 4-t2

Now you nothing with which to cancel out that 10at in the middle of the left side.
 
I already tried y=at^2+bt+c, but I still didn't have a way t cancel out t...
 
Oh, wait! I don't have to cancel out t...!lol I was too stupid...
 

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