Differential OP AMP Circuit Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to a differential operational amplifier (op-amp) circuit, specifically focusing on finding the ratio Vin/Vout. Participants are examining the implications of resistor values on the circuit's behavior and gain characteristics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the answer is among several choices provided, indicating a potential gain of -2 or -2.5, depending on resistor values.
  • Another participant requests clarification on how the initial conclusion was reached, emphasizing the need for a detailed explanation rather than a guess.
  • A different participant questions the assumption that certain resistors do not affect the circuit's operation, asking for proof of this claim.
  • It is noted that the presence of unequal resistor values (200 ohms and 300 ohms) suggests that the circuit may not function as a standard differential amplifier, potentially leading to a high common-mode gain.
  • There is a suggestion that if the resistor values were misidentified, it could affect the calculations and outcomes, prompting a request for computations based on corrected values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of the resistors in the circuit and whether the initial assumptions about the gain are valid. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the circuit's behavior.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the resistor values and their impact on the circuit's operation. The discussion highlights the need for clarity in definitions and potential corrections to the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


Find Vin/Vout

Homework Equations


Vout = Rf/R1(Vb-Va) ?

The Attempt at a Solution


I think the answer is the first one.

Answer choices:
Vin/Vout = -2, Rin = 100

Vin/Vout = -2, Rin = 200

Vin/Vout = -2.5, Rin = 100

Vin/Vout = -2.5, Rin = 200

Vin/Vout = -3, Rin = 100

Vin/Vout = 2, Rin = 100

Vin/Vout = 2, Rin = 200

Vin/Vout = 2.5, Rin = 100

Vin/Vout = 2.5, Rin = 200

None of the above
 

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Can you show us how you arrived at your conclusion? We won't confirm a guess...
 
Hi joey5981. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

So you believe the 300 ohms resistor (and its 100 ohm companion) do nothing here? How can you prove this?

Vin/Vout = -2, ...
The gain was given as this? Or did you mis-type what the book showed as Vout/Vin?
 
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Due to the unequal 200 and 300 ohm resistors this is not a differential amplifier in the accepted sense. In other words, it has a huge common-mode gain.

If you accidentally labeled the 300 ohm resistors so it should have been 200 ohms, then you should come up with a computation as gneill asks for.
 

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