Differentiating velocity function

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The discussion revolves around differentiating a velocity function given by v = 3t^2 - 14t + 8, with a focus on understanding the treatment of constant terms during differentiation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore whether the constant term "+ 8" is ignored during differentiation and discuss the implications of this on the resulting acceleration function.

Discussion Status

Participants have clarified that the derivative of a constant is zero, leading to a better understanding of how constant terms affect differentiation. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between differentiation and integration in the context of velocity and acceleration.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the differentiation process and the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and displacement, with participants questioning their understanding of these concepts.

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Homework Statement



Differentiate:

[itex]v = 3t^2 - 14t + 8[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if you do anything with the constant "+ 8" is it ignored when differentiating?

if its ignored then the answer is:

[itex]a = \frac{dv}{dt} = 6t - 14[/itex]
 
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FaraDazed said:

Homework Statement



Differentiate:

[itex]v = 3t^2 - 14t + 8[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if you do anything with the "+ 8" is it ignored where differentiating?

if its ignored then the answer is:

[itex]a = \frac{dv}{dt} = 6t - 12[/itex]

Oh, it is not. It's 6t-14. Isn't it? Is that just a typo?
 
Dick said:
Oh, it is not. It's 6t-14. Isn't it? Is that just a typo?

Yeah my bad, it was supposed to be 14.

So is the +8 ignored then, if so, why?
 
FaraDazed said:
Yeah my bad, it was supposed to be 14.

So is the +8 ignored then, if so, why?

It's not ignored, it's just that the derivative of a constant (8 in this case) is zero.

Think about it in the physical context. The derivative of velocity with respect to time is acceleration. Acceleration measures the rate of change of velocity, so velocity has to vary for there to be a non-zero acceleration. The terms that are dependent on t are varying, so they affect the acceleration. But the '+8' is just a constant add-on velocity. Since this doesn't change, it does not affect the acceleration. So it's correct that the term vanishes when you differentiate.
 
Thanks for explaining, it makes sense now.

Can you just confirm if I am doing a major *** up please?

a > v > s

to get from v to a you differentiate, and to get from v to s you integrate?

i.e. to go left you differentiate and to go right you integrate?
 
FaraDazed said:
a > v > s

to get from v to a you differentiate, and to get from v to s you integrate?

i.e. to go left you differentiate and to go right you integrate?
Yes.
 

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