Differentiation of a Quotient check

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The problem involves differentiating a quotient of two polynomial expressions, specifically S = (8x^2 - 7x + 125)/(8x + 7), where the variable x is unknown. Participants are discussing the application of the quotient rule in calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to apply the quotient rule, expressing the derivatives of the numerator and denominator. There are questions about the use of parentheses for clarity in the expressions and simplifications made during the differentiation process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formatting of the expressions and have pointed out potential errors in simplification. There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation steps, with no explicit consensus reached on the final form of the derivative.

Contextual Notes

Participants express a lack of confidence in using the quotient rule, indicating that they are seeking clarification and validation of their approaches. There is a focus on ensuring accuracy in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



S = (8x^2 - 7x + 125)/(8x+7)

Where the value of x is unknown

The Attempt at a Solution



u = 8x^2 - 7x + 125 du/dx = 16x - 7

v = 8x + 7 dv/dx = 8

ds/dx = (v*du/dx - u*dv/dx)/v^2

= (8x+7*16x-7 - 8x^2-7x+125*8)/(8x+7)^2

= (128x^2 - 56x + 112x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)/(8x+7)^2

= (128x^2 + 56x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)/(8x+7)^2

= (64x^2+951)/(8x+7)^2


This rule I'm not very comfortable or confident with so if I have gone wrong anywhere in my equations any help would be much appreciated
 
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DBeckett91 said:

Homework Statement



S = (8x^2 - 7x + 125)/(8x+7)

Where the value of x is unknown

The Attempt at a Solution



u = 8x^2 - 7x + 125 du/dx = 16x - 7

v = 8x + 7 dv/dx = 8

ds/dx = (v*du/dx - u*dv/dx)/v^2

= (8x+7*16x-7 - 8x^2-7x+125*8)/(8x+7)^2
You would do better to use parentheses:
[(8x+7)(16x- 7)- (8x^2- 7+ 125)(8)]/(8x+ 7)^2

= (128x^2 - 56x + 112x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)/(8x+7)^2
and here you mean [(128x^2 - 56x + 112x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)]/(8x+7)^2

= (128x^2 + 56x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)/(8x+7)^2
The only difference between this and the previous line is that the "112x" is missing. What happened to it?

= (64x^2+951)/(8x+7)^2


This rule I'm not very comfortable or confident with so if I have gone wrong anywhere in my equations any help would be much appreciated
 
HallsofIvy said:
You would do better to use parentheses:
[(8x+7)(16x- 7)- (8x^2- 7+ 125)(8)]/(8x+ 7)^2


and here you mean [(128x^2 - 56x + 112x - 49) - (64x^2 - 56x + 1000)]/(8x+7)^2


The only difference between this and the previous line is that the "112x" is missing. What happened to it?

In the above line there is -56x and +112x so all I did was 112x-56x to gain +56x, it was just some simplification of the equation so I had fewer numbers to work with later on
 
Oh, I see. Yes, that is the correct answer.
 

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