How Do You Calculate These Mathematical Derivatives and Integrals?

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The discussion revolves around calculating mathematical derivatives and integrals, focusing on various functions and their properties. Participants are exploring differentiation rules, logarithmic identities, and the evaluation of definite integrals.

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  • Participants attempt to apply differentiation rules such as the product and quotient rules, while questioning the correctness of their calculations. They also discuss the relationship between differentiation and integration, and how to interpret integrals in terms of area.

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Some participants have provided guidance on differentiation techniques and logarithmic properties. There is ongoing exploration of the correct application of these concepts, with multiple interpretations being discussed. No explicit consensus has been reached on the correctness of specific calculations.

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1: Sin(4x^2) * 8x

2: Ln(3x) / x^2

3: If dy/dx = 2ex and y=6 when x=0, then y =

4: If ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 12, then x=e^(blank)

5: evaluate the integral by integrating it in terms of an area
(not sure how to use latex) integral from 1/2 -> 3/2 (2x-1)dx

my attempts =]

1: sin(4x^2)*8x
using the chainrule for the first bit of the equation
cos(4x^2)*8x
which is cos(4x^2)*8x*8
so 64x*cos(4x^2) is what i got

2: ln(3x) / x^2
using the quotient rule, lo*dhi - hi*dlo / lo^2
differentiating ln(3x) using chain rule i get 3(ln(3x)), x^2 = 2x
so quotient rule equation is
( (x^2)*3ln(3x) ) - (ln(3x) *2x) /(x^2)^2
simplifying
(x^2)(3ln(3x)) - ln(3x)*2x / x^8
(x^2)(2ln(3x))-2x / x^8
that's about as far as i got

3: If dy/dx = 2ex and y=6 when x=0, then y =

i tried to remember the old exponential differentiation rules,
if C=e^x then ln(c) = x
if c=ln(x) then e^x = x
not quite sure how to solve it from there :)


4: If ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 12, then x=e^(blank)
is this one of those exponential rules?

5: evaluate the integral by integrating it in terms of an area
(not sure how to use latex) integral from 1/2 -> 3/2 (2x-1)dx
 
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For 1) use the product law

\frac{d}{dx}(uv)=v\frac{du}{dx}+u\frac{dv}{dx}

2) Use the fact that d/dx(lnx)=1/x.

3) Integration is the reverse of differentiation. So d/dx(ex)=ex

4) Use your rules of logarithms here

5) Draw the line y=2x-1 and then draw x=1/2, then x=3/2. What figure do these lines and the x-axis form?
 
thanks I've retried

1: sin(4x^2) * 8x
sin(4x^2) * 8 + cos(4x^2)*12x*8x
8sin(4x^2) + 96x*cos(4x^2)
is that right?

2: ln(3x)/x^2
(x^2 * 3/3x) - (ln(3x)*2x) / (x^2)^2
 
3: If dy/dx = 2ex and y=6 when x=0, then y =

d/dx is also 2e^x + c = 6

2*e^x = 2, c=4
2e^x + 4 = 6
is this right?
 
vorcil said:
thanks I've retried

1: sin(4x^2) * 8x
sin(4x^2) * 8 + cos(4x^2)*12x*8x
8sin(4x^2) + 96x*cos(4x^2)
is that right?

2: ln(3x)/x^2
(x^2 * 3/3x) - (ln(3x)*2x) / (x^2)^2

Where did you get the 12x from in the second line of 1?
2 looks correct

vorcil said:
3: If dy/dx = 2ex and y=6 when x=0, then y =

d/dx is also 2e^x + c = 6

2*e^x = 2, c=4
2e^x + 4 = 6
is this right?

ok if you know that when you differentiate ex with respect to x, you get ex+c.

and you differentiate y with respect to x to get ex, what do you get?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Where did you get the 12x from in the second line of 1?
2 looks correct



ok if you know that when you differentiate ex with respect to x, you get ex+c.

and you differentiate y with respect to x to get ex, what do you get?

whoops should be 8x?
sin(4x^2)*8 + (cos(4x^2)*8x)*8x
8sin(4x^2)+(64x^2)*(cos(4x^2))
 
5: evaluate the integral by integrating it in terms of an area
(not sure how to use latex) integral from 1/2 -> 3/2 (2x-1)dx

integral of 2x-1 = 2/2*x^2-x = (x^2)-x
((1.5^2)-1.5)-((0.5^2)-0.5) = 1

is that right?
 
vorcil said:
5: evaluate the integral by integrating it in terms of an area
(not sure how to use latex) integral from 1/2 -> 3/2 (2x-1)dx

integral of 2x-1 = 2/2*x^2-x = (x^2)-x
((1.5^2)-1.5)-((0.5^2)-0.5) = 1

is that right?

I believe when they say in terms of an area, you should draw out what the integral represents. Draw y=2x-1,x=1/2,x=3/2 on the same graph and find the area of the enclosed figure.
 

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