Difficulty With Integration by Parts

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration by parts technique, specifically in the context of an integral involving variables x and y. Participants are exploring how to appropriately set up the integration with respect to these variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are considering different choices for u and dv, questioning how to treat the variables during differentiation and integration. There is a suggestion to perform a substitution to simplify the integration process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered potential setups for the integration by parts, while others are clarifying their understanding of variable treatment. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with no explicit consensus yet on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the treatment of variables x and y, particularly in terms of which variable to integrate with respect to and how to differentiate u. The original problem statement and equations are not provided, which may limit the clarity of the discussion.

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What I am unsure of is how to find the derivative of u. Since the original integral is integrating with respect to y, should I be finding the derivative of u with respect to y, and treat the x's as contants?
 
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I think it's possible to solve it in terms of x

let u=x and dv=e^(-x(1+y))

then,
du=1
and v= [e^(-x(1+y))]/(-(1+y))

I think it should work

if you want let
u=e^(-x(1+y))

du= -(1+y)*e^(-x(1+y))

you treat y as a constant and x as a variable
(I am assuming you want to integrate in terms of x)
 
Alrighty then - I'll get to work. Thanks for the direction.
 
Roni1985 said:
I think it's possible to solve it in terms of x

let u=x and dv=e^(-x(1+y))

then,
du=1
and v= [e^(-x(1+y))]/(-(1+y))

Actually du = dx, also dv=e^(-x(1+y))dx

You can simplify this problem, by performing a w substitution at the beginning ie. consider w = -x*(1+y). It will make the integration by parts less of a headache.
 

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