Diffraction Gratings: Understanding Spectroscopes Using Pringles Tubes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the construction and functioning of a spectroscope made from a Pringles tube, specifically focusing on the diffraction of light and the formation of spectral lines. Participants seek clarification on the principles of diffraction and the nature of the images formed in the spectroscope.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their construction of a spectroscope and poses questions about the interference of light rays and the nature of the spectral lines observed.
  • Another participant corrects the first by stating that the process involved is diffraction rather than reflection, emphasizing that only light in phase is visible at specific angles.
  • A further contribution clarifies that the light forms a narrow column that spreads out upon hitting the CD, resulting in spectral lines that correspond to the dimensions of the slit used.
  • There is a repeated emphasis on the distinction between diffraction and reflection, with questions raised about how light is split if not reflected.
  • A participant provides a link to a Wikipedia page on diffraction in response to a request for a definition, suggesting further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of diffraction in the spectroscope's function, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the specifics of how light is split and the nature of the images formed. The discussion includes competing interpretations of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the definitions and processes involved, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of diffraction and interference. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Hi, I recently made a spectroscope using a pringles tube. I basically cut a very narrow slit at the metal end and at the plastic lid end I cut a circular shape out of a CD so that it fits inside the lid (I had to strip off the silver lining of course). I have some idea of how it works but would greatly appreciate some clarification and any extra information. Take the case of a sodium lamp that gives discrete spectral lines. As I understand it the light comes from the sodium lamp through the narrow slit and hits the CD inside the lid. The grooves on the CD reflect light at different angles depending on the wavelength which therefore split the light up. Since the silver surface is stripped off these reflected waves can transmit through into your eye. A couple of things I don't quite understand:

1) From what I have read, the reflected light rays can interfere constructively or/and destructively. So would you therefore not necessarily be seeing all the line spectra as some may have interfered destructively between the CD and your eye (if they were half a wavelength out of phase).

2) It also says that what you are seeing as line spectra are actually images of the slit. Is that right? Surely the light just comes through the slit, there's no image being formed is there?
 
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Jimmy87 said:
The grooves on the CD reflect light at different angles depending on the wavelength which therefore split the light up.
It is diffraction, not reflection.
Jimmy87 said:
So would you therefore not necessarily be seeing all the line spectra as some may have interfered destructively between the CD and your eye (if they were half a wavelength out of phase).
You see exactly the points where they are in phase. Under different angles you don't see light of this specific wavelength.

Jimmy87 said:
2) It also says that what you are seeing as line spectra are actually images of the slit. Is that right? Surely the light just comes through the slit, there's no image being formed is there?
Well, you still have the finite size of the slit and the light source that will give a finite width/height of the light patterns.
 
The light coming in through the slit forms a narrow, rectangular 'column' approximately the same size of the slit. When this column of light hits the CD, the grooves separate the different wavelengths and the column, as a whole, spreads out. So the line spectra look like the slit only in the sense that the length and width correspond to that of the slit. So a very narrow slit vies you narrow lines, while a wide one gives you wide lines.
 
mfb said:
It is diffraction, not reflection.
You see exactly the points where they are in phase. Under different angles you don't see light of this specific wavelength.

Well, you still have the finite size of the slit and the light source that will give a finite width/height of the light patterns.

Thanks for the answers. I thought the light hits the grooves and different wavelengths reflect at different angles? So how is the light splits up if it not reflected. How is diffraction defined?
 

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