'Diffraction' or 'Interference' gratings ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the terminology and conceptual understanding of "diffraction gratings" versus "interference gratings." Participants explore the definitions and characteristics of these concepts, questioning the appropriateness of the terms used in textbooks and other sources. The scope includes theoretical considerations and potential confusion arising from different interpretations of diffraction and interference.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that diffraction gratings are often described as multiple narrow slits, leading to confusion about whether they should be classified as diffraction or interference gratings.
  • Another participant references a Harvard PDF that suggests "diffraction grating" is a misnomer and should be termed "interference grating," arguing that the tall side peaks characteristic of interference are not present in true diffraction patterns.
  • A different participant mentions that Wikipedia states diffraction gratings have slits wider than the wavelength, which they argue allows for diffraction to occur.
  • One participant claims to have read that diffraction occurs regardless of slit width, though it becomes less significant as the slit width decreases, indicating a nuanced understanding of the relationship between slit size and diffraction effects.
  • Another participant emphasizes that diffraction is a form of wave interference, suggesting that the terminology may be inconsistent but is rooted in the physics of wave behavior.
  • A final participant acknowledges the complexity of the terminology and expresses gratitude for the insights shared in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the terminology and conceptual classification of diffraction gratings versus interference gratings. There is no consensus on whether the term "diffraction grating" is appropriate, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of these terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the definitions and descriptions found in textbooks and online sources, indicating that the understanding of diffraction and interference may depend on specific contexts and interpretations.

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I recently learned about the so called "diffraction" grating. In most textbooks I have seen, it is described as multiple slits setup, with really narrow slits. It is sometimes said that the width of the slits is much less than the wavelength of the light going through it.
Where is the diffraction in this ? This "diffraction" grating looks much more like an "interference" grating, where the interference come from the multiple slits interfering each others, not from within one slit (diffraction), since those are too small to apply Huygens principle.

I should also mention that diffraction gratings are usually being discussed right after the study of diffraction in the textbooks I have checked. This adds to the confusion.

So I have been searching on the web to find out what I am misunderstanding with diffraction gratings.

And I have come across one PDF file from Harvard (link here) which states (page 13, first paragraph of "Remarks") :

"A diffraction grating should more appropriately be called an “interference grating,” because
it is simply an example of N -slit interference. It is not an example of diffraction, which we
will define and discuss in Section 9.3.1. We’ll see there that a feature of a diffraction pattern
is that there are no tall side peaks, whereas these tall side peaks are the whole point of an
“interference grating.” However, we’ll still use the term “diffraction grating” here, since this
is the generally accepted terminology.
"

So after all, the terminology seems wrong ! Diffractions gratings have nothing to do with diffraction ?! oO

However since I don't like that much to rely on one source of information only, I wonder if some people here could confirm this ? Have you also been confused by the bad terminology ?

Why is this terminology actually used if there is no diffraction in a diffraction grating ? That sucks.
 
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To add even more to the confusion, note that the wikipedia page refers to diffraction gratings as having slits wider than the wavelength, thus allowing diffraction to actually occur :

"An idealised grating is considered here which is made up of a set of slits of spacing d, that must be wider than the wavelength of interest to cause diffraction."
 
Ok, I've just read twice on the web that actually, no matter how thin is the slit, diffraction always occur (it just occurs less)...Aha, so all the textbooks I have read are wrong. I guess when the slit width is comparable to the wavelength, diffraction becomes negligible...This is a huge distinction.

Still, it seems that sometimes diffraction gratings exhibit significant diffraction, sometimes not, depending of the slits width.
 
DoobleD said:
So after all, the terminology seems wrong ! Diffractions gratings have nothing to do with diffraction ?! oO

There's no simple answer for you. Diffraction itself is a case of wave interference. The term is just usually used to describe a wave that encounters an obstacle or different medium, such as a diffraction grating.
 
Natural-language terminology is not always consistent, even in physics. You just have to be aware of the quirks in usage.
 
Ok I see. Thanks guys for the answers!
 

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