Dipole in a nonuniform electric field problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a dipole in a nonuniform electric field, specifically focusing on the forces and torques acting on the dipole when a point charge is introduced nearby. The problem is set within the context of electrostatics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force on the dipole by treating the charges as point charges and analyzing the force vectors. There is a focus on the components of the forces, particularly the y-component.
  • Some participants question the clarity of the y-component calculation and suggest using LaTeX for better readability.
  • Others raise the importance of considering the assumption that r is much greater than s in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the clarity of the original poster's calculations and emphasizing the need to incorporate the specified assumptions into the analysis. There is no explicit consensus yet, but there are suggestions for refining the approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the assumption that r is much greater than s, which may affect the calculations of forces and torques on the dipole.

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Homework Statement


A point charge Q is held at a distance r from the center of a dipole that consists of two charges ±q separated by a distance s. The dipole is initially oriented so that Q is in the plane bisecting the dipole. Assume that r≫s.

A) Immediately after the dipole is released, what is the magnitude of the force on the dipole?

B) Immediately after the dipole is released, what is the magnitude of the torque on the dipole?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


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I treated the two charges on the dipole as point charges and then found the force vectors acting on them. Then I broke down the forces into their components and added them. The x components canceled and I was left with just a y component. For some reason this is wrong, though.
 
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It is not easy to read what the y-component is. Can you use LaTeX to write it down? I agree that the x-component is zero.
 
kuruman said:
It is not easy to read what the y-component is. Can you use LaTeX to write it down? I agree that the x-component is zero.

Here is the net y-component of the force.

\frac{Qqs}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}(r^2+\frac{s^2}{4})^{3/2}}
 
I suspect that they want you to incorporate their specified assumption: Assume that r≫s
 
gneill said:
I suspect that they want you to incorporate their specified assumption: Assume that r≫s
Exactly what I was about to type in. Before you do that, factor out of the radical r in the denominator.
 

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