How did the variable change in the Dirac-Delta function property equation?

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The discussion centers on the origin of the |y'(xj)| term in the denominator of equation 349, with participants questioning its derivation from equation 343. The integral being evaluated is focused on a small range around y_j = y(x_j), contrasting with equation 343, which pertains to the entire y-axis. The presence of the Jacobian due to a change of variables in the integral is highlighted as a crucial factor in understanding the denominator. Participants clarify that the delta function, δ(y(x)), is zero except at specific points, leading to confusion about its implications in the integral. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the mathematical nuances involved in evaluating the integral and the significance of the Jacobian in this context.
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I'm not sure how they got the RHS of equation 349:

where did the |y'(xj)| in the denominator come from?

According to (343) the RHS is only f(x0) which in this case is the jth term of the sum that gives y(xj) = 0..

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where did the |y'(xj)| in the denominator come from?
... um... from evaluating the integral?

According to (343) the RHS is only f(x0) which in this case is the jth term of the sum that gives y(x
j
) = 0...
I don't think that is what (343) says.

The integral you are evaluating is centered in a small range about ##y_j=y(x_j)##.
(343) is for the entire y axis, and is centered about the origin.
 
Simon Bridge said:
... um... from evaluating the integral?

I don't think that is what (343) says.

The integral you are evaluating is centered in a small range about ##y_j=y(x_j)##.
(343) is for the entire y axis, and is centered about the origin.

I'm sorry I still don't quite understand how the |y'(xj)| in the denominator came about. How do you evaluate the integral?
 
It comes from the Jacobian due to a change of variables done in order to perform the integral
 
dauto said:
It comes from the Jacobian due to a change of variables done in order to perform the integral

I still don't quite understand why is there a denominator:

δ(y(x)) is zero everywhere except at the particular xj where δ(y(x)) = δ(y(xj)) = δ(0) = 1

Then the integral can be simplified to give:

∫ f(x) dx from xj-ε to xj+ε where ε is small enough such that it does not coincide with other solutions of y(xi) = 0 for some xi.

Then that should give f(xj)∫ dx from xj-ε to xj

= f(xj) * 1 (∫ dx from xj-ε to xj+ε = 1)
= f(xj)where did the |f'(xj)| in the denominator come from?
 
unscientific said:
δ(y(x)) is zero everywhere except at the particular xj where δ(y(x)) = δ(y(xj)) = δ(0) = 1

Isn't it zero everywhere except where ##y=y_j:y_j=y(x_j)##
(What is y(x)?)

That means the ##\delta(y)## in the integrand turns into ##\delta(y-y_j)## to stay consistent.
Maths is a language - what is the math here supposed to be describing?

Now you can apply the rule.

Also take note: for a pure math interpretation...
dauto said:
It comes from the Jacobian due to a change of variables done in order to perform the integral
... how did they change variables?
 
unscientific said:
I still don't quite understand why is there a denominator:

δ(y(x)) is zero everywhere except at the particular xj where δ(y(x)) = δ(y(xj)) = δ(0) = 1

That's all wrong. δ(0) isn't equal to unit. The integral is equal to unit. δ(0) itself is an undefined divergent quantity - infinite.
 
Simon Bridge said:
... how did they change variables?

They changed from an integral over dx to an integral over dy. There is a Jacobean factor.
 
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