Direction & magnitude of normal stress

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the normal stress acting on the plane of maximum shear stress in a given state of stress. Participants explore both analytical approaches and graphical methods, such as Mohr's circle, to understand stress transformations and the assumptions regarding the direction of normal stresses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the plane of maximum shear stress is at 45 degrees relative to the maximum stress of 100 MPa, leading to a calculated normal stress of 75 MPa (compression).
  • Another participant challenges this calculation, indicating that the direction of normal stresses has not been correctly assumed, noting that one stress is positive and the other negative.
  • A later reply mentions that using Mohr's circle resulted in a normal stress of 25 MPa (tensile), but emphasizes the need to solve the problem analytically for a better understanding of stress transformations.
  • Further, a participant provides a detailed mathematical derivation involving the stress tensor and the calculation of normal and shear stress components, suggesting that the normal stress can be expressed in terms of the average of the principal stresses and their difference, depending on the angle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the correct assumptions regarding the direction of normal stresses. There are competing views on the correct approach to calculating normal stress, with some advocating for analytical methods while others reference graphical methods like Mohr's circle.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings regarding the signs of the stresses and the assumptions made about the orientation of the stress components. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with stress transformation techniques.

Rhaegal

Homework Statement


For the state of stress shown in the figure, normal stress acting on the plane of maximum shear stress is?
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Homework Equations


Normal stress σn = σcos2θ

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Plane of maximum shear stress is 45o relative to the max stress of 100MPa.

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So the total normal stress is 75MPa (compression).

I have assume the direction of normal stresses in both the cases with respect to applied stress.
Have I assumed the direction in both cases correctly?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Rhaegal said:
Have I assumed the direction in both cases correctly?
No. You have not correctly taken into account that one is positive and the other negative.

I suggest looking at Mohr’s circle.
 
Orodruin said:
No. You have not correctly taken into account that one is positive and the other negative.

I suggest looking at Mohr’s circle.

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Thanks for your suggestion. I have solved it using Mohr's cirlcle and found the normal stress to be 25 MPa (Tensile).

But the problem is to be used solved using analytical approach in order to get an intuitive grasp on stress transformations. So can you please tell me how to correctly assume the direction of normal stresses with respect to my earlier approach?
 

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Well, in one case it is negative and in the other positive. You get ##100\cos^2(\theta) - 50 \sin^2(\theta)## and for ##\theta = \pi/4## this translates to ##(100-50)/2 = 25## MPa.
 
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For this system, the stress tensor is given in dyadic notation by: $$\vec{\ \sigma}=\sigma_{xx}\vec{i_x}\vec{i_x}+\sigma_{yy}\vec{i_y}\vec{i_y}$$A unit normal vector to a plane of arbitrary orientation is given by: $$\vec{\ n}=\cos{\theta}\vec{i_x}+\sin{\theta}\vec{i_y}$$where ##\theta## is the angle relative to the x axis. If we dot the stress tensor with the unit normal, we obtain the traction vector on the plane: $$\vec{\ t}=\vec{\ \sigma}\centerdot \vec{\ n}=\sigma_{xx}\cos{\theta}\vec{i_x}+\sigma_{yy}\sin{\theta}\vec{i_y}$$The shear component (shear stress) of this vector on the plane is obtained by dotting the traction vector with the unit tangent to the plane: $$\vec{\ t}\centerdot \vec{i_t}=\vec{\ t}\centerdot (-\sin{\theta}\vec{i_x}+\cos{\theta}\vec{i_y})=(\sigma_{yy}-\sigma_{xx})\sin{\theta}\cos{\theta}=\frac{(\sigma_{yy}-\sigma_{xx})}{2}\sin{2\theta}$$The normal stress component of the traction vector is obtained by dotting the traction vector with the unit normal: $$\vec{\ t}\centerdot \vec{\ n}=\vec{\ t}\centerdot (\cos{\theta}\vec{i_x}+\sin{\theta}\vec{i_y})=\sigma_{xx}\cos^2{\theta}+\sigma_{yy}\sin^2{\theta}=\frac{(\sigma_{xx}+\sigma_{yy})}{2}+\frac{(\sigma_{xx}-\sigma_{yy})}{2}\cos{2\theta}$$The shear stress has maximum magnitude at ##2\theta=\pi/2##. At this value of theta, the normal stress is equal to ##\frac{(\sigma_{xx}+\sigma_{yy})}{2}##
 
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