Direction of friciton in bicycyle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the direction of friction in the context of a bicycle and a rolling ball. Participants explore the apparent contradictions in friction direction when comparing a ball rolling in one direction to the behavior of a bicycle's wheels when not pedaled. The scope includes conceptual clarification and technical reasoning regarding friction and rolling resistance.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the direction of friction on a ball rolling to the east is towards the east, questioning the consistency of this with the friction direction on a bicycle.
  • Another participant notes that a ball eventually stops rolling, prompting a question about the nature of friction and its role in this process.
  • A third participant asks about the direction of friction if the ball rolls to the west, expressing uncertainty about the original claim regarding friction direction.
  • One participant suggests that the term "rolling resistance" might be more appropriate than "friction," indicating that it opposes the direction of rolling.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of carefully interpreting diagrams and understanding the differences in friction direction between the front and back wheels of a bicycle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the direction of friction and the concepts of rolling resistance, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are potential limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of friction and rolling resistance, as well as the assumptions made about the scenarios presented.

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I found that direction of friction on ball rolling to east is towards east. And I Know direction of friction in moving bicycle when it is not paddled is backward on both rear and front wheels. Aren't they contradictory??


Plz help me...
 
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Biplov said:
I found that direction of friction on ball rolling to east is towards east.
So why does a ball always stop rolling after a while?
 
What if the ball rolls to the west? What direction is friction then? Are you absolutely certain of your original finding?
 
Biplov said:
I found that direction of friction on ball rolling to east is towards east. And I Know direction of friction in moving bicycle when it is not paddled is backward on both rear and front wheels. Aren't they contradictory??


Plz help me...

You need to be very careful when looking at the arrows on such diagrams. The acid test is always to think what you would expect to happen as a result of your choice about direction. You have to be right about the difference between front and back wheels. :wink:
 

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