I Understanding the Direction of 'r' Vector in Torque and Biot-Savart Law

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The vector 'r' in torque is correctly defined as pointing from the axis to the point of force application. In the context of linear momentum, 'r' points from the center of orbit to the mass. For the Biot-Savart law, 'r' is the vector from the current-carrying wire to the point of measurement. A useful rule is that in formulas involving cross products, the order of the vectors determines the direction of the resulting physical quantity. Understanding these relationships helps clarify the role of 'r' in various physical contexts.
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So I understand the with torque, T= r x F: r is a vector that points from axis to point of force, correct?

I am confused about the direction of r is a couple of other circumstances, and I wanted to know if there is handy rule.

For example a linear momentum, this diagram, does 'r' also point from center of orbit to the mass?

Also, in Biot-Savart law:

$$d{\bf{B}} = \frac{{\mu _0 }}{{4\pi }}\frac{{Id\ell \times {\bf{\hat r}}}}{{r^2 }}$$

what is the direction of 'r' ... from current to the point or the other way around??

Is there a handy rule?

Thanks a lot!
 
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hansen4332 said:
Is there a handy rule?
For all possible meanings of "r"? No, but usually it's a vector describing a position, relative to some reference point.
 
You are correct in all three cases. For angular momentum the r is from axis to CoM of the object whose angular momentum is being measured. For Biot-savart it is the vector from the wire to the point of measurement.

The handy rule is that a formula used to define a physical quantity in terms of a cross product will be written in an order that makes the vector of the physical quantity point the way we want it to point. Note how the r is the first argument to the cross product for torque and ang mom and the second argument for Biot-Savart. That's because that's where it needs to be to make the formula work.
 
hansen4332 said:
...with torque, T= r x F: r is a vector that points from axis to point of force, correct?
You've got the sense of r correct but I wouldn't use the term point of force . You could say instead the head of displacement vector r is a point on the force vector's line of application.
 
Correction: Should be line of action, not line of application.
 
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