Direction of the fastest rate of change of a function (Solution inclu)

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The discussion revolves around finding points where the direction of the fastest rate of change of the function f(x,y)=x²+y²-2x-4y is aligned with the vector i+j. Participants explore the gradient of the function and its implications for directionality.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants analyze the gradient \nabla f(x,y) and its relationship to the vector i+j, questioning how a single variable k can represent two different expressions simultaneously. They discuss the necessary condition for parallelism between the gradient and the vector.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the relationship between x and y that allows for a consistent value of k. There is an acknowledgment of the mathematical reasoning behind setting the two expressions for k equal to each other, leading to a linear relationship between x and y.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion regarding the implications of k being equal to two different expressions, indicating a need for deeper exploration of the underlying concepts.

mrcleanhands

Homework Statement


Find all the points at which the direction of the fastest rate of change of the function [itex]f(x,y)=x^{2}+y^{2}-2x-4y[/itex] is i+j



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The Attempt at a Solution


The direction of the fastest change is [itex]\nabla f(x,y)=(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j[/itex], so we need to find all points (x,y) where [itex]\nabla f(x,y)[/itex] is parallel to i+j.

[itex]\Longleftrightarrow(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j=k(i+j)[/itex] [itex]\Longleftrightarrow[/itex] [itex]k=2x-2[/itex] and [itex]k=2y-4[/itex]

Ok here's where I start to get lost. How can k = two different things at the same time?

The solution continues:
Then [itex]2x-2=2y-4[/itex] [itex]\Longrightarrow y=x+1[/itex], so the direction of the fastest change is i+j at all points on the line y=x+1
 
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mrcleanhands said:

Homework Statement


Find all the points at which the direction of the fastest rate of change of the function [itex]f(x,y)=x^{2}+y^{2}-2x-4y[/itex] is i+j



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The direction of the fastest change is [itex]\nabla f(x,y)=(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j[/itex], so we need to find all points (x,y) where [itex]\nabla f(x,y)[/itex] is parallel to i+j.

[itex]\Longleftrightarrow(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j=k(i+j)[/itex] [itex]\Longleftrightarrow[/itex] [itex]k=2x-2[/itex] and [itex]k=2y-4[/itex]

Ok here's where I start to get lost. How can k = two different things at the same time?

The solution continues:
Then [itex]2x-2=2y-4[/itex] [itex]\Longrightarrow y=x+1[/itex], so the direction of the fastest change is i+j at all points on the line y=x+1

Right. You can't have ##k## equal two different things. What you do have to do is figure out what relation ##y## and ##x## must satisfy so that you have only one value ##k## needed. That requires that ##2x-2=2y-4##.
 
mrcleanhands said:

Homework Statement


Find all the points at which the direction of the fastest rate of change of the function [itex]f(x,y)=x^{2}+y^{2}-2x-4y[/itex] is i+j



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The direction of the fastest change is [itex]\nabla f(x,y)=(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j[/itex], so we need to find all points (x,y) where [itex]\nabla f(x,y)[/itex] is parallel to i+j.

[itex]\Longleftrightarrow(2x-2)i+(2y-4)j=k(i+j)[/itex] [itex]\Longleftrightarrow[/itex] [itex]k=2x-2[/itex] and [itex]k=2y-4[/itex]

Ok here's where I start to get lost. How can k = two different things at the same time?
The same way 4 can be equal to 2+ 2 and 3+ 1 "at the same time"= they are different ways of writing the same thing. That is why you can, as you say, write 2x- 2= 2y- 4.

The solution continues:
Then [itex]2x-2=2y-4[/itex] [itex]\Longrightarrow y=x+1[/itex], so the direction of the fastest change is i+j at all points on the line y=x+1
 
Ok, it just clicked.
 

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