Direction of the force on the ramp due to the sliding block

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The discussion revolves around determining the direction of the force exerted on a ramp by a sliding block, particularly in the context of friction and the geometry of the situation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the direction of the sliding block, the normal force, and friction. Some question the assumptions about friction's direction and its impact on the forces involved.

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There is ongoing exploration of the forces at play, with some participants providing insights into the role of friction and the normal force. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, particularly regarding the direction of forces.

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Participants note the presence of kinetic friction with a coefficient of 0.20 and the assumption that the block is sliding down the slope, which influences their reasoning about the forces involved.

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How do you find the direction of force on a ramp due to a sliding block

I thought it would be in the direction of theta on the triangle but that wasnt correct. Thank you so much for your help!
 
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If there is any friction, the answer depends on the direction
in which the block is sliding.
If no friction, then normal to the plane by definition.
 
there is a coefficient of kinetic friction = 0.20

and i had thought that the frictional force for the ramp would be in the direction that the block is sliding and the frictional force on the block would be in the other way but that doesn't seem to be the case
 
Remember friction resists motion, so it will be against the direction that it is moving.
 
LowlyPion said:
Remember friction resists motion, so it will be against the direction that it is moving.

This applies to the friction force on the block.
The question refers to the force exerted by the block on the ramp.
 
so I tried the answer of the direction opposint the direction of friction and that was not correct, i am not sure as to what i should do to try and figure this out
 
phy112-sp said:
there is a coefficient of kinetic friction = 0.20

and i had thought that the frictional force for the ramp would be in the direction that the block is sliding and the frictional force on the block would be in the other way but that doesn't seem to be the case

A highly relevant piece of information!
If not specified you also have to make the assumption that the
block is sliding down the slope.
Given "Friction force" = 0.2 *"Normal reaction" you can easily deduce
the angle that the resultant force makes with the normal to the plane.
 
I finally got the answer and it was perpendicular to the block (the normal force) and straight down (gravity) ! thank you so much for the help!
 

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