Directional derivative with angle

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The discussion revolves around finding the directional derivative of the function f(x,y,z) = sin(5 x) + ln(y^2+1) + z^3 at the point (0,1,3) in the direction of the vector (1,1,0). Participants express confusion regarding the interpretation of the direction and the point of evaluation for the gradient.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of the gradient and its evaluation at specific points, questioning whether to evaluate at (1,1,0) or (0,1,3). There is discussion about the correct direction vector and how to derive the unit vector from the points given.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem's requirements, with some participants suggesting different interpretations of the directional derivative and the points involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of the gradient and the dot product, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the direction and the points of evaluation, leading to confusion about how to proceed with the calculations.

  • #31
That's all the question provides, pi/4
 
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  • #32
This is a conceptual question as it says "of a vector" so that means of any normal vector \vec{n}\cdot\vec{T}=0 (orthogonality condition)
 
  • #33
hmm..are you sure?
 
  • #34
djeitnstine said:
This is a conceptual question as it says "of a vector" so that means of any normal vector \vec{n}\cdot\vec{T}=0 (orthogonality condition)

I think I see what djeitnstine is saying. The directional derivative is grad(f).n. You also know an expression for the dot product in terms of the lengths of the vectors and the angle between them, I hope.
 
  • #35
-EquinoX- said:
Say the question is like this:

Find the directional derivative of f(x,y,z) = xy + z2 at the point(2,2,3) in the direction of a vector making an angle of pi/4 with gradf (2,2,3). Give an exact answer.

Therefore my first step is to find the gradient and I need to something similar to what I've done with this question, however.. how do I find the vector if all I know is pi/4
One major problem with this is that there are an infinite number of vectors "in the direction of a vector making an angle of pi/4 with gradf (2,2,3)". That is NOT a unique direction.
 
  • #36
-EquinoX- said:
hmm..are you sure?

Yes I'm sure, I've done it quite a number of times.
 

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