Calculating Impulse and Force: Understanding the Concept Behind It

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concepts of impulse and force in a physics problem. A mass of 0.4 kg experiences a force in the negative direction, leading to confusion about the calculation of average force and the interpretation of impulse. The impulse is calculated as 32.4 N*s, while the average force is determined to be 1200 N, with the distinction that the question asks for magnitude, which is always positive. Participants clarify that impulse represents the change in momentum, not the force itself, and emphasize the importance of recognizing the wording in the problem. Ultimately, the confusion stems from mixing up the concepts of impulse and force directionality.
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This is in relation to a homework question: But I don't need assistance on the question itself, but the concept behind it.

A mass of .4kg travels in the positive direction for 67m/s until a separate force is applied to M in the negative direction at 14m/s for .027 seconds. Impulse = 32.4 It then asks, "What is the average magnitude of the force?"

I'm more confused on the wording - as to what is it asking specifically? Why is the force being asked to be represented as a magnitude when it should have direction as well?

J = F Δt
F=J/Δt
F= -32.4N*s/.027s
F=-1200N

Yet the answer states 1200N. Impulse should be negative, since it's coming in from the negative direction, right?

What am I missing?
 
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It asks for the magnitude of the force, so therefore it would always be positive.

You also seem to be confusing impulse and impact; the former is the change in momentum not the force applied.
 
It probably should have been worded "magnitude of the average force"
 
person123 said:
You also seem to be confusing impulse and impact; the former is the change in momentum not the force applied.
I don't follow. I calculated the change of time in there: J=FΔt.

Dale said:
It probably should have been worded "magnitude of the average force"
That makes more sense. I realized I calculated directions into it when it didn't ask for it.
 
1200 Newtons is not the impulse; I'm not sure whether you thought it was or not.
 
person123 said:
1200 Newtons is not the impulse; I'm not sure whether you thought it was or not.
No no. Impulse was 32.4N*s in the negative direction. 1200N is the force.
 
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Oh, okay. It all seems good. :smile:
 
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Well, force consists of both a magnitude and a direction. You were already given the direction (the negative direction) so the only thing that's left to determine is the magnitude :).
 
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