Discovering Stokes Law to Understanding its Origins and Applicability

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the derivation of Stokes' law, exploring whether it is an empirical law or can be derived from fundamental principles, specifically through the Navier-Stokes equations. Participants consider both analytical and numerical methods for deriving the law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether Stokes' law can be derived or if it is purely empirical.
  • Another participant suggests that it can be derived by solving the small fluid-mass limit of the Navier-Stokes equations.
  • A different participant confirms that it is possible to derive Stokes' law analytically.
  • There is a query about whether the derivation requires analytical methods or if numerical methods, such as finite element analysis, are necessary.
  • One participant mentions that deriving Stokes' law analytically involves working intuitively to find the appropriate velocity profile equations and suggests using Occam's razor to simplify the equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods of derivation, with some asserting that an analytical approach is possible while others imply that numerical methods might also be considered. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to derive Stokes' law.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the Navier-Stokes equations and the need for specific assumptions about fluid behavior, such as the small fluid-mass limit, but do not clarify all assumptions or mathematical steps involved in the derivation.

Don Carnage
Hi -
Is it possible to derive Stokes law or is it an emprirical law.?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokes'_law
I was thinking of using the Navier-Stokes equations but i don't want to start out
if it impossible..
Thx.
 
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by solving the small fluid-mass limit of the generally unsolvable Navier-Stokes equations

There's your answer.
 
Don Carnage said:
Hi -
Is it possible to derive Stokes law or is it an emprirical law.?

You can derive it.
 
So can I derive it analytical or do I have to use numeric methods alias finite element..?
Well I will try to do some calc tomorrow.. shouldn't be that hard.. thx
 
Yes it is possible to derive Stokes law analytically but you have to work a bit intuitively to get the the appropriate velocity profile equations. This seems to include invoking Occam's razor to justify applying a zero valued coefficient to the squared terms in the V.P. equations.
Cheers,
T.S.
 

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