Discrete Mathematics Absolute Value Proof

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The discussion revolves around proving the statement that for all real numbers x and y, the product of their absolute values equals the absolute value of their product: |x| * |y| = |xy|. Participants suggest breaking the proof into four cases based on the signs of x and y, which is a valid approach. It is noted that cases can be combined, as the scenarios where one number is positive and the other negative are symmetric. The importance of considering all possible combinations of signs is emphasized, confirming that the proof can effectively utilize these cases. The conversation highlights the logical structure needed for a formal proof in discrete mathematics.
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Homework Statement


Prove the following statement:
For all real numbers x and y, |x| times |y| = |xy|



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I really don't know how to start this as a formal proof.


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I was thinking I'd have to break it down into four cases and logically prove that the statement is true because no matter what, x times y is going to have the same numerical value as it's opposite number (of course beside it being negative) because once you take the absolute value, it's going to be positive anyways.
Case 1: Suppose both x and y are positive real numbers.
Case 2: Suppose x is a negative real number and y is a positive real number.
Case 3: Suppose x is a positive real number and y is a negative real number.
Case 4: Suppose both x and y are positive.

Am I on the right track or am I going in the wrong direction?
 
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if you want to do cases you only need to do 3. You can WLOG two of them together.
 
Do you mean cases 2 and 3 then?
 
Yes, the situation where a> 0 and b< 0 is exactly the same as a< 0 and b>0. However, I would not discourage you from considering the two cases separately. You are completely correct to argue that there are 2 cases for x and 2 cases for y and so (2)(2)= 4 cases altogether.
 
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