Discrete or continious spectrum in QM

In summary, the conversation discusses how to determine whether a potential has a discrete or continuous spectrum without solving the Schrödinger equation. Special cases, such as when the particle travels in a central field potential or when there are two turning points, can provide clues about the spectrum. Examples are given for repulsive and attractive potential fields, as well as the 6-12 potential. Ultimately, it is possible to guess the spectrum without solving the equation, but there may be uncertainty when there are more than two turning points.
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Here is the question: how can we know that if we have discrete or continuous spectrum just by looking at the potential graph?

Specifically, let`s consider the potential V(x)=-F*x (F:const) . After we solve, we can conclude wavefunctin is airy function, and so both continious and discrete spectrum. But, without sloving, how can we decide?
 
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There are special cases when we can guess what the spectrum would be. For example, when the particle travels in the central field potential it can be shown that: when the energy [tex]E[/tex] of the particle is positive the spectrum is continuous and when [tex]E<0[/tex] the spectrum is discrete.
For example, if we have repulsive potential energy of the form [tex]U \sim 1/r[/tex], the total energy [tex]E[/tex] of the particle is positive. (Really,
[tex]E=\frac{1}{2m}\int {\psi^* \hat{\mathbf{P}}^2}\psi dV + \int {\psi^*U \psi}dV[/tex]
which is positive since [tex]U[/tex] is positive and the eigenvalues of [tex]\hat{\mathbf{P}}^2}[/tex] are positive numbers too).
So, in this potential field we have [tex]E>0[/tex] and continuous spectrum.
If [tex]U \sim -1/r[/tex] we have Сoulomb attraction and to possibilities: [tex]E>0[/tex] (continuous spectrum, ionized electron) and [tex]E<0[/tex] (discrete spectrum).
Finally, in case of 6-12 potential we have continuous spectrum for [tex]E>0[/tex] (dissociated molecule) and discrete spectrum for [tex]E<0[/tex].
Such examples show that we can guess what the spectrum is without doing anything with Schrödinger equation.
 
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The way that was explained to me is if there are 2 turning points, then it is discrete. If there is only 1 turning point, it is continuous. I, unfortunately, was never able to ask my professor whether something that had three (or more) turning points would be continuous or not.
 

1. What is a discrete spectrum in quantum mechanics?

A discrete spectrum in quantum mechanics refers to a set of energy levels that are distinct and separated from each other. This means that the energy values can only take on specific, quantized values instead of being continuous.

2. How is a discrete spectrum different from a continuous spectrum?

A continuous spectrum in quantum mechanics refers to a range of energy values that can take on any value within that range. This is in contrast to a discrete spectrum, where the energy values are limited to specific, quantized values.

3. What is an example of a system with a discrete spectrum in quantum mechanics?

An example of a system with a discrete spectrum in quantum mechanics is an electron in an atom. The electron can only exist in specific energy levels, or orbitals, around the nucleus, rather than having a continuous range of energy values.

4. How is the concept of a discrete spectrum related to the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics?

The uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics states that it is impossible to know both the position and momentum of a particle with absolute certainty. This is related to the concept of a discrete spectrum, as the quantized energy levels in a discrete spectrum also imply a level of uncertainty in the precise energy value of a particle.

5. Can a system have both a discrete and a continuous spectrum in quantum mechanics?

Yes, a system can have both a discrete and a continuous spectrum in quantum mechanics. This is known as a mixed spectrum, where the energy values can take on both specific, quantized values and any value within a continuous range.

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