Disk brakes along the rim of the wheel?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of placing disk brakes along the rim of a wheel, exploring the implications for energy and force required to stop the wheel. Participants question the efficiency and practicality of this design in modern bicycles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that positioning disk brakes along the rim requires less energy to stop the wheel, prompting questions about its absence in current bike designs.
  • Another participant argues that having brakes at the rim increases the torque about the center of the wheel, leading to quicker stops.
  • A third participant points out that the design described resembles bicycle caliper brakes, which already utilize a similar mechanism of squeezing the rim.
  • One participant clarifies that while less force may be needed at the rim due to higher speed, the overall energy required remains constant, as the area swept by the brakes compensates for the differences in force and speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the energy and force dynamics of rim versus hub brake placements, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a consensus on the advantages or disadvantages of the proposed design.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the relationship between force, torque, and energy in braking systems, but the conversation lacks a resolution on the practical implications of these dynamics in real-world applications.

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Disk brakes along the rim of the wheel??

Hi friends,
I have a doubt. I heard that when we keep the disc brake along the rim of the wheel, less energy is required to stop the wheel. Why is it so?? Why is it not used in today's bikes?:confused:
 
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when we keep it along the rim of the wheel then torque about center of wheel increases and bike stops sooner
 


Disk brakes consist of a pair of calipers squeezing two parallel surfaces. Caliper brakes on a bicycle consist of of a pair of calipers squeezing the rim of the wheel. The rim surfaces are fairly parallel.

Congratulations, you've reinvented the bicycle caliper brake.
 


Raama said:
Hi friends,
I have a doubt. I heard that when we keep the disc brake along the rim of the wheel, less energy is required to stop the wheel. Why is it so?? Why is it not used in today's bikes?:confused:

Not less energy, just less force.

At the rim you won't have to squeeze as hard, but rim is moving faster, so more wheel will slide past the caliper before is stops. At the hub the torque is much greater, so you will have to squeeze much harder...but the hub is moving slower, so less wheel will slide past the caliper before it stops.

In the end, the squeeze force x area swept will be the same wherever you place the brakes.
 

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