Disproving Euler's Identity: Check My Math

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The discussion revolves around an individual's claim of having disproved Euler's Identity, leading to a series of mathematical steps that conclude with the erroneous statement that 2 equals 0. Participants highlight the importance of understanding the complex logarithm, noting that the logarithm is a multivalued function, which is crucial for correctly interpreting the equations presented. The original poster admits to a lack of knowledge in complex numbers and acknowledges the need for further study. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the significance of proper mathematical definitions and understanding in complex analysis. The thread serves as a reminder of the complexities involved in advanced mathematical concepts.
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I was messing around with Euler’s Identity and I think I accidently disproved it. I would like someone to check my math to make sure I didn’t make any rookie mistakes.

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> e^{\pi i} + 1 = 0 \\ <br /> e^{\pi i} = - 1 \\ <br /> \left( {e^{\pi i} } \right)^2 = \left( { - 1} \right)^2 \\ <br /> e^{2\pi i} = 1 \\ <br /> \ln \left( {e^{2\pi i} } \right) = \ln \left( 1 \right) \\ <br /> 2\pi i = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{2\pi i}}{{\pi i}} = \frac{0}{{\pi i}} \\ <br /> 2 = 0 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />
 
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So, how did you define the logarithm on complex numbers??
 
ln(1) = 2kπi, where k is any integer. ln is a multivalued function.
 
Onyxus said:
I was messing around with Euler’s Identity and I think I accidently disproved it. I would like someone to check my math to make sure I didn’t make any rookie mistakes.

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> e^{\pi i} + 1 = 0 \\ <br /> e^{\pi i} = - 1 \\ <br /> \left( {e^{\pi i} } \right)^2 = \left( { - 1} \right)^2 \\ <br /> e^{2\pi i} = 1 \\ <br /> \ln \left( {e^{2\pi i} } \right) = \ln \left( 1 \right) \\ <br /> 2\pi i = 0 \\ <br /> \frac{{2\pi i}}{{\pi i}} = \frac{0}{{\pi i}} \\ <br /> 2 = 0 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />



What gives you away as a rookie is the title of your post, not your mathematics...which are also wrong.

Perhaps you'll be interested in reading about the complex logarithmic function's definition...

DonAntonio
 
edit: student posted under my account
 
Thank you, DonAntonio, mathman and micromass, I thought that was what my error was, but I wasn't sure. You see, I haven't yet taken a course in which I learn even the basics of complex numbers, so my knowledge in that area is rather lacking.
 
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