Distance of x,y and z intercepts of a plane

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The discussion centers around the relationship between the x-, y-, and z-intercepts of a plane and the distance from the origin to that plane, expressed mathematically. Participants are exploring the equation 1/d² = 1/a² + 1/b² + 1/c², where d is the distance from the origin to the plane, and a, b, and c are the respective intercepts.

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  • Participants discuss visualizing the problem through geometric representations, such as right-angled triangles formed by the intercepts and the origin. There are considerations about the normal vector to the plane and its relationship to the distance from the origin. Some participants also reference the use of Lagrange multipliers in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


If a,b and c are the x-,y-, and z-intercepts of a plane, respectively, and d is the distance from the origin to the plane show that:

1/d2=1/a2+1/b2+1/c2

Homework Equations



distance from a point to a plane: <br /> d=|Ax0 + By0 + Cz0 +D|/√a<sup>2</sup>+b<sup>2</sup>+c<sup>2</sup><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> So I have been able to draw it and what I am getting is that I can make 3 right angled triangles. One would be: (O is the origin, all of these would be vectors)<br /> AO +OD =DA<br /> OB+ BD = DO<br /> OC +CD =DO<br /> I am also thinking that the distance from the plane to the origin would have to be the normal of the plane. But that&#039;s all I have.<br /> (i&#039;m sorry i could not get the equation written with the code)
 
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summer27 said:

Homework Statement


If a,b and c are the x-,y-, and z-intercepts of a plane, respectively, and d is the distance from the origin to the plane show that:

1/d2=1/a2+1/b2+1/c2

Homework Equations



distance from a point to a plane: <br /> d=\frac{|Ax_0 + By_0 + Cz_0 +D|}{\sqrt{A^2+B^2+C^2}}

The Attempt at a Solution


So I have been able to draw it and what I am getting is that I can make 3 right angled triangles. One would be: (O is the origin, all of these would be vectors)
AO +OD =DA
OB+ BD = DO
OC +CD =DO
I am also thinking that the distance from the plane to the origin would have to be the normal of the plane. But that's all I have.
(i'm sorry i could not get the equation written with the code)

Don't include sup tags and square root symbols in tex. Quote this to see how I fixed that fraction. Notice that the plane with those intercepts can be written as$$
\frac 1 a x + \frac 1 b y + \frac 1 c z = 1$$Now use your quoted formula to calculate the distance from ##(0,0,0)## to the plane. (I corrected your formula too.)
 
So the equation of the plane is f(x, y, z)= \frac{x}{a}+ \frac{y}{b}+ \frac{z}{c}= 1. The distance from the origin to the plane will be minimum when the vector perpendicular to the plane, \nabla f(x,y,z)= \frac{1}{a}\vec{i}+ \frac{1}{b}\vec{j}+ \frac{1}{b}\vec{k}, is parallel to the vector from the origin to the point, x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}. That is, there must be some number, \lambda such that x= \frac{\lambda}{a}
y= \frac{\lambda}{b}, and z= \frac{\lambda}{c}. (This argument is equivalent to the "Lagrange multiplier method" for dealing with max-min problems.)

Of course, since the point, (x, y, z), is on the plane, it must also satisfy the equation of the plane so we must have \frac{x}{a}+ \frac{y}{b}+ \frac{z}{c}= \frac{\lambda}{a^2}+ \frac{\lambda}{b^2}+ \frac{\lambda}{c^2}= 1. That is, \lambda\left(\frac{1}{a^2}+\frac{1}{b^2}+\frac{1}{c^2}\right)= 1 so \lambda= \frac{1}{\frac{1}{a^2}+ \frac{1}{b^2}+ \frac{1}{c^2}}.

Of course, \frac{1}{a^2}+\frac{1}{b^2}+ \frac{1}{c^2}= \frac{b^2c^2}{a^2b^2c^2}+ \frac{a^2c^2}{a^2b^2c^2}+ \frac{a^2b^2}{a^2b^2c^2}= \frac{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}{a^2b^2c^2} so that \lambda= \frac{a^2b^2c^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}. Putting that into x= \frac{\lambda}{a}, y= \frac{\lambda}{b}, and z= \frac{\lambda}{c} gives
x= \frac{ab^2c^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}, y= \frac{a^2bc^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}, and z= \frac{a^2b^2c}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
So the equation of the plane is f(x, y, z)= \frac{x}{a}+ \frac{y}{b}+ \frac{z}{c}= 1. The distance from the origin to the plane will be minimum when the vector perpendicular to the plane, \nabla f(x,y,z)= \frac{1}{a}\vec{i}+ \frac{1}{b}\vec{j}+ \frac{1}{b}\vec{k}, is parallel to the vector from the origin to the point, x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ z\vec{k}. That is, there must be some number, \lambda such that x= \frac{\lambda}{a}
y= \frac{\lambda}{b}, and z= \frac{\lambda}{c}. (This argument is equivalent to the "Lagrange multiplier method" for dealing with max-min problems.)

Of course, since the point, (x, y, z), is on the plane, it must also satisfy the equation of the plane so we must have \frac{x}{a}+ \frac{y}{b}+ \frac{z}{c}= \frac{\lambda}{a^2}+ \frac{\lambda}{b^2}+ \frac{\lambda}{c^2}= 1. That is, \lambda\left(\frac{1}{a^2}+\frac{1}{b^2}+\frac{1}{c^2}\right)= 1 so \lambda= \frac{1}{\frac{1}{a^2}+ \frac{1}{b^2}+ \frac{1}{c^2}}.

Of course, \frac{1}{a^2}+\frac{1}{b^2}+ \frac{1}{c^2}= \frac{b^2c^2}{a^2b^2c^2}+ \frac{a^2c^2}{a^2b^2c^2}+ \frac{a^2b^2}{a^2b^2c^2}= \frac{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}{a^2b^2c^2} so that \lambda= \frac{a^2b^2c^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}. Putting that into x= \frac{\lambda}{a}, y= \frac{\lambda}{b}, and z= \frac{\lambda}{c} gives
x= \frac{ab^2c^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}, y= \frac{a^2bc^2}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}, and z= \frac{a^2b^2c}{b^2c^2+ a^2c^2+ a^2b^2}.
This might be irrelevant to the OP, who after all, has posted in the Precalculus section.
 

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