Divergence of Energy-momentum Tensor

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The discussion centers on the proof of the divergence-free nature of the energy-momentum tensor, specifically the equation ∂μTμν=0. Participants explore various approaches, including the use of Lagrangian variables, the Einstein tensor, and Maxwell's equations, while considering the implications of these methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to prove that the energy-momentum tensor is divergence-free, presenting the equation ∂μTμν=0.
  • Another participant suggests using the expression for Tμν involving the electromagnetic field tensor Fμν, but expresses uncertainty about whether to use Lagrangian variables or the Einstein tensor.
  • Some participants reference the relationship ∂νFμν = Jμ and the properties of the electromagnetic field tensor, indicating that these relationships are relevant to the discussion.
  • There is a contention regarding the applicability of certain equations, with one participant arguing that using the equations mentioned would not yield a divergence-free result unless the vacuum Maxwell equations are applied.
  • Another participant acknowledges the role of work done on charges by the electromagnetic field, relating it to the energy-momentum tensor and the 4-Lorentz force per unit volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods to prove the divergence-free nature of the energy-momentum tensor, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the implications of using specific equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of context, such as whether to consider the presence of charges or to apply vacuum conditions, which may affect the divergence of the energy-momentum tensor.

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How do you prove that the energy-momentum tensor is divergence-free?

∂μTμν=0
 
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I mean

∂_{\mu}T^{\mu\nu}=0

T^{\mu\nu}=F^{\mu\alpha}F^{\nu}_{\alpha}-1/4F^{\alpha\beta}F_{\alpha\beta}\eta^{\mu\nu}


I don't know whether to use Lagrangian variables or the Einstein tensor or if there's a simpler way to just expand the tensor and work it out?
 
use the fact that:
<br /> \partial_\nu F^{\mu \nu} = J^\mu, \partial_{\mu} F^{\nu \rho} + \partial_{\nu} F^{\rho \mu} + \partial_{\rho} F^{\mu \nu} = 0, \; F^{\mu \nu} = -F^{\nu \mu}<br />
 
Dickfore said:
use the fact that:
<br /> \partial_\nu F^{\mu \nu} = J^\mu, \partial_{\mu} F^{\nu \rho} + \partial_{\nu} F^{\rho \mu} + \partial_{\rho} F^{\mu \nu} = 0, \; F^{\mu \nu} = -F^{\nu \mu}<br />

It won't be divergence-free if you use those equations. Instead use the vacuum Maxwell equations (above with J=0). Alternatively use the above to find the divergence to equal F_{ab}J^b (up to sign).
 
Sam Gralla said:
It won't be divergence-free if you use those equations. Instead use the vacuum Maxwell equations (above with J=0). Alternatively use the above to find the divergence to equal F_{ab}J^b (up to sign).

Ah, of course. There is work done on charges by the electromagnetic field. The above energy gives the 4-Lorentz force per unit volume.
 

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