Undergrad Divergence Theorem: Gauss & Cross-Product Integration

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The forum discussion centers on the divergence theorem, specifically the relationship between the integral of the curl of a vector field and surface integrals. The formula discussed is ##\int_v(\nabla×u)dv=\int_s(ds×u)##, which is derived from vector calculus principles. Participants confirm the correctness of the formula and relate it to Archimedes' principle using fluid dynamics concepts, particularly the balance of forces per unit volume. The discussion highlights the application of these mathematical principles in physics, particularly in electricity and magnetism contexts.

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From gauss divergence theorem it is known that ##\int_v(\nabla • u)dv=\int_s(u•ds)## but what will be then ##\int_v(\nabla ×u)dv##
Any hint??
The result is given as ##\int_s (ds×u)##
 
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I had to look this one up in the appendix of an E&M (electricity and magnetism) textbook. I have never used it in any application.
With ## \int \nabla p \, dv =\int p \, \hat{n} ds ##, where the force per unit volume in a fluid is ## f_v=-\nabla p ## and must balance the force of gravity per unit volume ## f_g=-\rho g \hat{z} ##, I have done another proof of Archimedes principle.
Yes, you have it correct, and if you take ## u \times ds ##, it gets a minus sign.
 
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I had to look this one up in the appendix of an E&M (electricity and magnetism) textbook. I have never used it in any application.
With ## \int \nabla p \, dv =\int p \, \hat{n} ds ##, where the force per unit volume in a fluid is ## f_v=-\nabla p ## and must balance the force of gravity per unit volume ## f_g=-\rho g \hat{z} ##, I have done another proof of Archimedes principle.
Yes, you have it correct, and if you take ## u \times ds ##, it gets a minus sign.
Sir actually I came across this formula ##\int_v(\nabla×u)dv=\int_s(ds×u) ##,but sir I want to just prove this formula once by hand ,but didn't get any idea or hint of how to start with... that's why sir I am asking this...
 
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Let \mathbf{c} be an arbitrary constant vector field and consider <br /> \mathbf{c} \cdot \int_V \nabla \times \mathbf{u}\,dV = \int_V \mathbf{c} \cdot (\nabla \times \mathbf{u})\,dV<br /> = \int_V \nabla \cdot (\mathbf{u} \times \mathbf{c})\,dV.
 
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Ok sir then ##\int_v\nabla•(u×c)dv=\int_s(u×c)•ds=\int_s(u_jc_k-u_kc_j)ds_i+(u_kc_i-u_ic_k)ds_j+(u_ic_j-u_jc_i)ds_k##rearranging terms having ##c_i,c_j## and ##c_k## coefficients it becomes ##-\int_s(u×ds)•c## and for c being a constt vector Rhs becomes ##\int_v(c•(\nabla×u))##
Thanks @pasmith and @Charles Link
 
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