Diving into ellipsoid swimming pool at one focus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of water waves in a swimming pool shaped like a half-ellipsoid, particularly focusing on the effects of a diver entering the water at one of the foci. Participants explore the implications of this shape on wave propagation, splash dynamics, and potential experiments to observe these phenomena.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a splash created by a diver at one focus would be reflected towards the other focus of the half-ellipsoid.
  • Others argue that the effectiveness of this reflection would depend on the shape and size of the diver, suggesting that larger bodies may not be efficiently projected upwards.
  • There are discussions about the differences between half-ellipsoids and full ellipsoids, with some asserting that symmetry may render the distinction less significant.
  • Participants mention the potential for experiments using small-scale models to observe wave behavior, including the use of materials like plaster or aluminum to create ellipsoidal shapes.
  • Some contributions highlight the importance of considering different types of waves (gravity waves vs. acoustic waves) and their respective roles in the splash dynamics.
  • There is a suggestion that the acoustic impedance of the diver and the water could influence the wave behavior, raising questions about how these factors interact.
  • Several participants share personal anecdotes or hypothetical scenarios related to wave behavior in circular or elliptical pools.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of wave behavior or the implications of different wave types. Multiple competing views remain regarding the efficiency of wave reflection and the relevance of various wave dynamics in the context of the ellipsoidal pool.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include references to the limitations of models and assumptions about wave behavior, as well as the dependence on the physical characteristics of the diver and the pool shape. The complexity of wave interactions in three-dimensional spaces is acknowledged but not resolved.

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Baluncore said:
Don't forget that the velocity of the gravity wave is depth dependent.
Yes. but if the wave period is short enough, such that the wavelength is much smaller than the average depth, this effect could be made small. At the boundary the slopes are very steep so it would not be like a shallow water wave.

It would be cool, if one could show both types of waves cause an effect at the other focus with the same impact.
 
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