Do Isolation Transformers Compromise the Earth Wiring Protection of a Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around the role of isolation transformers in electrical circuits, particularly concerning their impact on earth wiring protection and lightning protection. Participants explore the implications of using isolation transformers for safety against electric shock and the potential loss of earth grounding benefits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that isolation transformers prevent electric shock by isolating the earthing cable, thus eliminating a return path for current through a person to the ground.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial premise but points out that if multiple people touch different points in the isolated system, current could still flow, posing a risk of electric shock.
  • A later post raises concerns about lightning protection, indicating that using isolation transformers may conflict with the requirements for effective lightning protection, particularly in specific applications like high mast lighting.
  • One participant asserts that while isolation transformers may compromise earth wiring protection, good lightning protection for the primary circuit can often be sufficient in most situations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and safety of isolation transformers in relation to earth wiring protection and lightning protection. There is no consensus on whether the use of isolation transformers is entirely safe or if they compromise essential protective measures.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential conflicts between the use of isolation transformers and the requirements for effective lightning protection, as well as the nuances of safety in isolated systems versus grounded systems.

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hello!

isolation transformers are supposedly protecting from electric shock

without them, the voltage source is connected to a circuit and the circuit is connected to Earth via an earthing wire.

if you touch the live circuit, a closed circuit will be formed that will give you electric shock: the current will flow from the live circuit through you to the Earth and from the Earth to the earthing cable

so the purpose of isolation transformer is to actually isolate this earthing cable, so that there will be no path for the current to return to the live circuit and thus form a closed circuit

am I right?

my question is:
after installing an isolating transformer, don't we lose the Earth wiring protection of the circuit? which serves the thunder protection?
 
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You seem to have the right idea. When you isolate the supply and connect (via your body, perhaps) any part of the equipment to Earth, then that part of the equipment acquired Earth potential with only a very small flow of current and you do not die or even feel anything. The two supply wire potentials will 'pivot' around this point and have the same PD between them as ever. This is perfect protection for a single fault in an otherwise perfect system. However, if someone else touches a different point in the isolated system then current can flow through both of you and kill you. It need not be another person - just any path to earth. The system is no longer floating and gives you no protection at all. If there is a third, Earth cable then, of course, any exposed metal will be held at 0V and you would be protected as normal. The two safety devices are not really equivalent (and are not mutually exclusive), though and an Earth cable is much more 'fail safe' and passive than a system that you assume to be balanced. An Earth network will help give lightning protection in any case.
 
physior said:
hello!

isolation transformers are supposedly protecting from electric shock

without them, the voltage source is connected to a circuit and the circuit is connected to Earth via an earthing wire.

if you touch the live circuit, a closed circuit will be formed that will give you electric shock: the current will flow from the live circuit through you to the Earth and from the Earth to the earthing cable

so the purpose of isolation transformer is to actually isolate this earthing cable, so that there will be no path for the current to return to the live circuit and thus form a closed circuit

am I right?

my question is:
after installing an isolating transformer, don't we lose the Earth wiring protection of the circuit? which serves the thunder protection?
There is an impossible problem regarding lightning protection when using isolation transformers because the two requirements are in conflict. For instance, when a transformer is supplying lights on a high mast. There is a danger that a moderate static discharge, perhaps one induced on the power line, can flash across the transformer and destroy it.
 
physior said:
my question is:
after installing an isolating transformer, don't we lose the Earth wiring protection of the circuit? which serves the thunder protection?
Yes, but in the most of situations, good lightning protection of primary circuit is sufficient.
 

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