Do the professors or whoever it is that chooses to accept who gets in to unviersity or not even take into consideration the letter of recomendation? My friends suggested i get a letter of recomendation from my current math teacher if i don't think i'm going to get high enough marks for my chosen program i'm applying to. (math) But to be honest, i highly doubt the people who look over these things even take into consideration the letter. This coming semester, i have : physics adv functions << night school calculus data and statistics art I'm willing to give up everything to get into my local university's math program (carleton university. Btw, does anybody know if they have a good program for math there?) Well a little about me and my life. For all my life until last summer, i just screwed around and didn't care about school. Thought i'd take on a trade and have an easier life. But when i actually got into the trade, it wasn't easy at all and constantly getting yelled at when i was giving 100% of my body. It still wasn't enough so i got out of it. Then during last year of highschool, i took a grade 12 college course math. I was easily the top student which was stupid because i only had a 70% in that class and everybody else screwed around. I didn't do much homework but little by little, i started to really like math and wanted to understand it more. Of course i still wanted to try bricklaying/masonry. When that didn't work out, i knew there was only one option left. That was to go back to school for another year in highschool Now i'm playing catchup and everyday i do math but it's so hard for me to break into the 80% barrier. I know i can do it. It just takes time and i'm sure it will come. The only subject i like is physics/math. I hate the arts and even for physics/math i'm not good at it. I've been busting my *** every day to catch up with my fellow classmates in a grade 11 math class. Anyway thanks for answering if you do. Btw, sorry if my paragraphing and wording sucks. I'm not that good at english.