Do Rubber Bands Truly Follow the Modified Hooke's Law Formula?

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The discussion centers on the reliability of a formula claiming that rubber bands follow a modified version of Hooke's Law, specifically F=-kT(x-1/x^2). Participants debate the correct interpretation of the variable x, questioning whether it should be L/L0 or δL/L0. The conversation highlights the relationship between stress, force, and elasticity, referencing Young's modulus and its implications for rubber band behavior. There is uncertainty about the formula's validity, with some suggesting it indicates a hardening effect during compression. The original source of the formula is provided for further examination.
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I have found a website which claims that rubber bands obey a force law
F=-kT(x-\frac{1}{x^2})
x=\frac{L}{L_0}
While this is similar to Hooke's Law in the sense that it *almost* approaches it for large values of x, it is also quite different. Can anyone confirm or deny the formula's reliability? Thanks.
 
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Are you sure x = L/L_0~~and~not~~\delta L/L_0~ ?
 
No, I'm not sure.
 
Well if you're familiar with elasticity you can formulate Hooke's Law in its terms,

Stress = Modulus of Elasticity x Relative Deformation

For a longitudinal deformation, the modulus is called Young's modulus

\sigma = Y \delta L

Since Stress = Force/Area

\frac{F}{A} = Y \delta L

F = YA \delta L

You know

\delta L = \frac{\Delta L}{L_{o}}

F = YA \frac{\Delta L}{L_{o}}

Rearranging

F = \frac{YA}{L_{o}} \Delta L

we have

F = \frac{YA}{L_{o}} \Delta L

Hooke's Law

F = k \Delta x

where k in our equation is (x = L)

k = \frac{YA}{L_{o}}

The people from that page probably tried something similar, can you give us the website?
 
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The given formula, in order to be meaningful must have x=\frac{L}{L_{0}}

Rewritten slightly, it simply says:
F=-kT\delta{L}({1+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{x^{2}}})

Hence, it predicts a hardening for compression of the rubber.
I don't know if it actually is good, though..
 
The given formula, in order to be meaningful must have x=L/L0 ...

Which is what they give under the link. So it looks like a simple uniaxial time-independent hardening mod of sorts ... so is it just a simple made up correction or does it have any theoretical merit ?
 
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