Do Without Electricity: Carpets, Boilers, Kettles & More

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of living without electricity in a modern context. Participants explore various aspects, including alternatives to common electrical appliances, lifestyle changes, and historical perspectives on energy use.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that without carpets, vacuum cleaners become unnecessary, and if heating is done with solid fuel, electric boilers and kettles are also redundant.
  • Others express a preference for maintaining modern conveniences like washing machines, questioning the motivation behind a proposed ban on home electricity.
  • There are arguments for a return to simpler, more self-reliant lifestyles, with some participants viewing modern gadgets as distractions from true happiness.
  • Concerns are raised about the environmental impact of solid fuel use, with references to historical issues of resource scarcity and pollution associated with wood and coal.
  • Participants discuss practical challenges, such as how to keep food cold without a refrigerator, suggesting alternatives like cold cellars or gardening.
  • Some express skepticism about the practicality of living without electricity, citing the need for certain appliances and conveniences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the desirability and practicality of living without electricity, as well as the implications of such a lifestyle change.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unresolved questions about the environmental impact of solid fuels, the practicality of alternative food preservation methods, and the historical context of energy use in past civilizations.

  • #61
Smurf said:
Well... I've already decided to live without meat, alcohol or hallucinagenic substances. Not like I could fall much farther.

Radical man, no more juicy steaks? i have never been one for wanting to see
things beyond my control, but you have to have some fun.
 
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  • #62
How many members did you get,wolram?!
 
  • #63
Lisa! said:
How many members did you get,wolram?!

Ah, I am not worried Lisa, any time now they will be lined up ten deep for
miles. So far i have mom, dad, benji signed up.
 
  • #64
Ok,a family organization!
 
  • #65
Lisa! said:
Ok,a family organization!

No absolutely wrong, i have a SUPER MENTOR member, now how cool is that,
any time now i expect to be over loaded with applications
 
  • #66
you mean Evo?
 
  • #67
I'll join as long as I can still use electricity. :wink:
 
  • #68
honestrosewater said:
I'll join as long as I can still use electricity. :wink:
I wonder if we're still allowed to use electricity as long as we use it outside?

I just remembered something, I can't live without a fan. :frown: Fans don't use much energy.

Wolram, can I use my fan, please? :shy:
 
  • #69
I cannot do without my computer either. Would it be enough to switch to direct current? :biggrin:
 
  • #70
I'm a computer addict, too. Almost turned into a PF addict as well. BTW, is there any anual fee for being a fool member?

Daniel.
 
  • #71
Evo said:
I wonder if we're still allowed to use electricity as long as we use it outside?

I just remembered something, I can't live without a fan. :frown: Fans don't use much energy.

Wolram, can I use my fan, please? :shy:

Well i am a generous type person, who can not tolerate a ladies dis comfort
so ok Evo a fan is in the energy budget.
 
  • #72
:cry: not my elastic-trickery no please.
My life support centre AKA my home office would cease to exist.
Wait do I count as domestic or comercial? I'm running websites here, that can't be domestic can it?

*runs to think up good excuses to keep her elastic-trickery*
 
  • #73
*Kia* said:
:cry: not my elastic-trickery no please.
My life support centre AKA my home office would cease to exist.
Wait do I count as domestic or comercial? I'm running websites here, that can't be domestic can it?

*runs to think up good excuses to keep her elastic-trickery*

Look Evo can keep here fan, and puters are exempt, anything else will be
transmogrified at 9Pm next micklmass tuesday.
 
  • #74
I'm scared of this transmogrification, but I'll join if I can have batteries for my Casio keyboard.
 
  • #75
What about solar power?
 
  • #76
And let's not forget bicycle power. They powered all sorts of things with bicycles on Gilligan's Island. :wink:
 
  • #77
Ok Brewy can have batteries and we can use the power of the sun, that was
a clever idea Evo, i think you can have your own R&D dept, i have been
attempting to catch cow gas but i am run of my feet, may be i should put them
all together and get another plastic bag? and Rose that is a good idea, but
bicycles are expensive to make so we can have monocycles.
I have almost perfected my ant powered treadmill and working on a way to
make it smaller, just think ant powered radios.
 

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