Does a single electron have poles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of an electron and whether it possesses poles, specifically focusing on its characteristics as an electric monopole and a magnetic dipole. Participants explore theoretical implications, properties, and measurements related to these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that an electron, being a point particle, attracts positive charges equally from all directions due to its radial Coulomb potential.
  • One participant claims that an electron is an electric monopole and a magnetic dipole, totaling three poles.
  • Another participant questions the properties and origins of these poles.
  • Measurements of the electron's electric dipole moment suggest it is extremely small, implying negligible separation of charges.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of electric fields and whether an electron attracts or repels charges unevenly.
  • One participant explains that an electric field is defined as force per unit charge, relating it to the equations of motion for charged particles.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how a single electron can have a magnetic dipole, prompting further clarification.
  • Another participant suggests visualizing the electron as a spinning object, where the motion of charge generates a magnetic dipole field similar to a current loop.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the nature of the electron and its poles, with some agreeing on its classification as an electric monopole and magnetic dipole, while others raise questions and seek clarification. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of electric and magnetic poles, the implications of measurements, and the conceptual understanding of electric fields. These aspects are not fully resolved.

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If so, why? Shouldn't it attract positive charges equally from all sides?
 
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The electron is taken to be a point particle. As a point charge, it has a coulomb potential that emanates radially from it's position... so yes, it will attract any positively charged particle equally from all sides (so long as we are considering positive charges of equal charge)

you may have been thinking of electron spin? if not, ignore that comment...
 
An electron is an electric monopole and a magnetic dipole. Three poles in total.
 
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What are the properties of these poles, and from where do they originate?
 
Measurements of the electron electric dipole moment show that if there is one, it is less than 7 x 10-28 e-cm, meaning that it is equivalent to less than two opposite electron charges separated by 10-28 cm. i.e., zero to the best measurements made. See electrons in
http://pdg.lbl.gov/2009/tables/rpp2009-sum-leptons.pdf
Bob S
 
kashiark said:
What are the properties of these poles, and from where do they originate?

The electric monopole is a source of electric (Coulomb) field and the magnetic dipole is a source of the magnetic dipole field of electron. They are features of nature, experimental facts.
 
What exactly is an electric field? Does the electron unevenly attract positive charges and/or unevenly repel negative charges?
 
kashiark said:
What exactly is an electric field? Does the electron unevenly attract positive charges and/or unevenly repel negative charges?

I will tell you exactly what an electric field is. It is a force divided by charge. In other words the product of electric field and charge is the force standing in the right-hand side of the Newton equation: ma = qE. There is no other way of understanding an electric filed - it is what appears in the charge equation of motion as an external force.

For two charges you have to write two equations of motion. Each equation contains an external force created with an external source. For particle 1 it is the electric force of the second particle. For particle 2 it is the electric force of the first particle. Depending on charge signs, the forces can be attractive or repulsive.
 
That makes sense, but this is what I'm confused about:
"Magnetic dipole
A model of an object that generates a magnetic field in which the field is considered to emanate from two opposite poles, as in the north and south poles of a magnet, much as an electric field emanates from a positive and a negative charge (each of which is a monopole) in an electric dipole."
How can a single electron have a magnetic dipole? I don't understand.
 
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It's easy. You can consider it as a spinning ball of a small but a finite size, so the charge motion creates an electric current and a dipole magnetic field. Like a current loop. (Any spinning planet has one).
 
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Ah, ok that makes sense. Thanks!
 

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