Does Ampere's Law Hold for Magnetic Circuits with Non-Symmetric Geometry?

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This discussion addresses the application of Ampere's Law in magnetic circuits with non-symmetric geometries, specifically comparing a ferrous torus to a square core configuration. The equations derived for the magnetic field strength (H) are H = NI/L for the torus and H = NI/(l1 + l2 + l3 + l4) for the square core, where l1, l2, l3, and l4 represent the lengths of the square edges. The participant raises concerns about the validity of the assumptions of constant flux and no leakage field, suggesting that these assumptions may lead to violations of Ampere's Law in non-symmetric geometries.

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Background: In the textbooks I’ve read the simple magnetic circuit is developed by first looking at a ferrous torus symmetrically wrapped with a condutor. Symmetry arguments indicate that the H field is radial through the torus and 0 on the inside and outside of the torus. Then from Ampere's law H is obtained.

H = NI/L, N = number of turns, I = current, L = length around the torus (Pi R).

I'm okay with this but next the shape of the torus changes to a square and the turns are bunched together on 1 leg of the square, say l1. And two assumptions are discussed: (1) flux is constand around the square core and (2) no leakage field. With these assumptions Ampere's law is used again to obtains the same equation for H except the Lenght "L" changes to match the square core.

With a square core: L = l1 + l2 + l3 + l4. (l's are lengths of the square edges)

My Problem: If I use Ampere's law for other paths I get "VERY" different answers.

I can say integrate through l1 (that contains all the conductors) and would obtain: H = NI/l1. Or I could integrate say the half of the square that does not have a conductor and obtain:
H = NI/(l2 +l3+l4), but here I is zero. So H=0 under the assumptions.

So does the assumptions of no leakage field and constant flux for this geometry immediately cause a violation of Ampere's law?

Thanks for any comments.
 
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