Does attenuation affect subsequent interference?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of attenuation on the interference of light beams, specifically when one beam is significantly attenuated in a lossy medium. Participants explore whether the visibility of interference patterns would be affected compared to a standard 50% / 50% beam splitter scenario, considering factors like phase coherence and the influence of the medium on surviving photons.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the absorbing medium introduces randomness that could affect the coherence of the attenuated beam, particularly in relation to the phase of surviving photons.
  • Another participant suggests that if the medium introduces scattering, it could increase the path length enough to reduce fringe visibility, while absorption alone might not significantly affect it.
  • A participant corrects a previous statement regarding the intensity of the output beams, clarifying that the 95% output is attenuated to match the 5% output.
  • One participant posits that if the light power is sufficiently low, photon noise may be observed, but asserts that the phase relations and diffraction pattern would remain unchanged.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of the lossy medium on interference visibility, with some suggesting that scattering could play a significant role while others believe absorption alone may not. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of these effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that assumptions about the medium's properties, such as scattering versus absorption, are critical to understanding the effects on coherence and visibility. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these assumptions.

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Consider a 95% / 5% beam splitter. The 95% output is attenuated in a lossy medium until its intensity is equal to the 5% output.
If we now get these two beams to interfere, would the visibility be as good as the usual 50% / 50% case, or would there be some kind of added randomness that would reduce the coherence of the attenuated beam?

In other words, does the absorbing medium affect the phase of those photons that happen to survive absorption, in a "noisy" way? (Assume, however, that the photon energy is far greater than the thermal noise in the absorber).
 
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Did you mean to say that the 95% output is attenuated to the 10% output, since you are asking about a 50/50 case?

To your question, if the medium introduces scattering, e.g. due to the presence of pigments, then the path length in the medium might be increased enough compared to the coherence length of the light that the visibility of the fringes could be reduced to some degree. For absorption without scattering, I would think there'd be no significant reduction but I'll be interested in other replies.
 
Thanks, pixel. I changed the 10% to a 5% -- it was a mistake.
 
Swamp Thing said:
Consider a 95% / 5% beam splitter. The 95% output is attenuated in a lossy medium until its intensity is equal to the 5% output.
If we now get these two beams to interfere, would the visibility be as good as the usual 50% / 50% case, or would there be some kind of added randomness that would reduce the coherence of the attenuated beam?

In other words, does the absorbing medium affect the phase of those photons that happen to survive absorption, in a "noisy" way? (Assume, however, that the photon energy is far greater than the thermal noise in the absorber).
If the light power is small enough, then of course the result will see photon noise but the phase relations and diffraction pattern are not altered.
 
Thanks!
 

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