Does Black Hole Evaporation Result in Visible Emission and Directional Output?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of Hawking Radiation emitted by black holes, specifically addressing whether this radiation is directional or isotropic, and the implications of black hole evaporation on visibility. The scope includes theoretical aspects of black hole physics and quantum field theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that Hawking Radiation may be emitted in a single direction or at polar opposites, raising questions about the directional nature of this emission.
  • One participant describes a process involving vacuum fluctuations that leads to the emission of photons, suggesting that one photon may escape while the other falls into the black hole, contributing to its mass loss.
  • Another participant notes that the radiation emitted from a black hole would be nearly homogeneous around the event horizon, but the actual measurements could vary based on surrounding conditions, such as the presence of an accretion disk.
  • There is a suggestion that as a black hole loses mass, the rate of Hawking Radiation increases, potentially leading to a rapid evaporation phase, described as "boiling off." However, this remains speculative.
  • Concerns are raised about the theoretical nature of Hawking Radiation, with comparisons made to past scientific theories that were initially viewed as implausible but later gained acceptance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of Hawking Radiation, with some suggesting isotropic emission while others propose directional characteristics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of emission directionality and the visibility of black holes as they evaporate.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the concepts involved, including the dependence on quantum field theory and the conditions surrounding black holes, which may affect the observed radiation. There are also references to unresolved aspects of the theoretical framework.

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According to the Black Hole evaporation theory, Hawking Radiation is emitted from the black hole.

My first question is: Does it emit in one single direction or at polar opposites, and my second is: What happens when enough matter is emmited, does the black hole suddenly become visible again?

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This may grossly oversimplify the process but it goes something like this.

1) First you must accept “vacuum” fluctuations, for our use here we will take that to mean in a vacuum as random very fast events where a Photon moving forward in time and an anti-Photon moving backwards in time are created (or at least some kind of particle anti-particle pair). They meet each other very quickly and annihilate themselves into nothing.

2) We can also assume that from our view they take next to no time to occur, and the energy that “appears” in the form of two photons is gone before we can see it, thus to use it seems that vacuum was still a simple vacuum where nothing really happened. Plus, we can speculate that these unseen events happen more frequently near larger accumulations of mass.

3) When these things happen near but outside a black hole, sometimes one of the pair is pointed toward the Black hole and goes in while the other “escapes”.

4) The one that goes in annihilates with someone inside the hole, thus reducing the energy/mass of the black hole.

5) Note, if the one escaping is the “anti” one moving “backwards” in time, that is only true in the space of the fluctuation, reference Feynman diagrams to understand why when it comes into our “normal” time we see it as a normal Photon moving forward in time.

This would give the appearance of energy come out of a black hole as it gets smaller! Hawking also claims that this process runs faster and faster as the black hole does get smaller until at some critical size the remainder of the black hole “boils” off in a flash.

Frankly you have to look at such a set up as just some wild theory in a desperate attempt to explain how the mass in a black hole can be returned to our universe and not be trapped there forever.
The last time we saw something this desperate was when some nut a few decades ago wanted to resolve problems they were having in balancing mass/energy conservation in nuclear reactions by just creating a unknown, unseen, and undetectable new particle. That was “NUTS” but, if I remember right that imaginary particle led to a couple guys getting a Noble, and the word Neutrino be added to our dictionary. That doesn’t mean Hawking is right, but the idea is as hard to prove wrong as it is to prove right.
 
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RandallB said:
Frankly you have to look at such a set up as just some wild theory in a desperate attempt to explain how the mass in a black hole can be returned to our universe and not be trapped there forever.
I had thought that the conclusion of black hole radiation was a fairly straightforward consequence of applying quantum field theory to the curved spacetime in the region of the horizon--it's related to the Unruh effect which describes how an accelerating observer in flat spacetime will see blackbody radiation where an inertial observer sees a vacuum, according to quantum field theory.
 
In case the answer to your first question was not made entirely clear, this radiation would be emitted from all points around the spherical event Horizon nearly homogenously. Measurements taken by a distant observer would depend on the conditions existing in the space around the black hole. If the black hole had a large accretion disk and polar jets, then the radiation being emitted at the event Horizon would probably be a sort by the gas and dust along the accretion disk and then ejected from the polls. However, a black hole sitting in relatively "empty" space should radiate in all directions equally.
 

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