Paradox about black hole evaporation

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The forum discussion centers on the paradox of black hole evaporation, specifically the scenario involving two characters, Jack and Jill. Jack approaches the event horizon of a black hole at a constant speed of 10 km/h, while Jill observes him with an ultrasensitive infrared camera. Due to Hawking radiation, the event horizon shrinks, causing Jill to perceive Jack as never reaching it, despite him having crossed it in his own timeline. The discussion highlights the distinction between events in spacetime and the information Jill receives, emphasizing that Jack's fate is sealed upon crossing the horizon, while Jill's observations are limited to the signals she can detect before the black hole completely evaporates.

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  • #31
PeterDonis said:
That quantity is not limited to ##c##; it increases without bound as ##r = 0## is approached. So it cannot be interpreted as a "speed".

If you are fine with that, then I think the answer is that ##dr / d\tau = c## when the true event horizon is crossed, but I have not done the math to confirm that.
Thank you. (I used "speed" because it corresponds to Newtonian escape velocity, But I do not need to interpret it as "speed",just ##dr / d\tau## is ok.)
 
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  • #32
Found the paper by Ashtekar and Bojowald 2005. It is not very technical but has some references that surely need to be read in addition, but summarizes a lot of issues with the "traditional" semi-classical approach instigated by Hawking on BH evaporation.
 
  • #34
otennert said:
this is based on the assumption that the final naked singularity is spacelike

The singularity isn't naked since it's behind a horizon, but it is spacelike, yes, like the one for an eternal Schwarzschild black hole.

otennert said:
to me it is not really clear that this is the case. It is not even clear to me that a final singularity exists at all.

Yes, that's an open question. But this particular thread is discussing that model, since that's the setting for the OP's scenario.
 
  • #35
otennert said:
The discussion has evolved

You're the only one who is trying to do that. If you want to discuss the more general questions you are raising, please start a separate thread.
 
  • #36
The OP question has been answered, and this thread is closed.
 

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