Does energy level determine degeneracy in 3D systems?

vabite
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
Hi everyone.

I can not remember if, in 3D, the higher it is the energy level, the higher it is its degeneracy. With a cubic well and with a 3D harmonic oscillator it holds... Does anyone know if it is a general rule or not (and in the case it is, where does this rule come from)?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
No that's not true, not even for a particle in a box of equal sides.

Consider the energy eigenvalues of this system: ##E_{\vec{n}} = \frac{\hbar^2 \pi^2}{2m L^2}(n_x^2 + n_y^2 + n_z^2)##. The first excited state has degeneracy 3 and so do the second and third excited states but the fourth excited state has no degeneracy just like the ground state.
 
  • Like
Likes 2 people
You must look at the energy, and see how different eigenvalues generates the same value of energy (because that means that for the same value of the energy, you have more than one eigenfunction, and that's the definition of degeneracy). For example, for the particle in a cubical box of side a, the energies are:

##E=\frac{h^2}{8ma^2}(n^2_x+n^2_y+n^2_z)##

Look at what happens for different eigenvalues, for example for ##n_x=1,n_y=2,n_z=1## you have the same value of the energy than for: ##n_x=2,n_y=1,n_z=1## and ##n_x=1,n_y=1,n_z=2##, so that energy level is degenerate. Now, if the box weren't cubical, this wouldn't hold. Now, for higher energies, in general you will have more combinations for the triad of n's that gives the same value of energy, and that's why the degeneracy grows with the energy (not always as WannaBeNewton said).
 
  • Like
Likes 1 person
Ok. You have been both very clear. Thanks.
 
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. Towards the end of the first lecture for the Qiskit Global Summer School 2025, Foundations of Quantum Mechanics, Olivia Lanes (Global Lead, Content and Education IBM) stated... Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/quantum-entanglement-is-a-kinematic-fact-not-a-dynamical-effect/ by @RUTA
If we release an electron around a positively charged sphere, the initial state of electron is a linear combination of Hydrogen-like states. According to quantum mechanics, evolution of time would not change this initial state because the potential is time independent. However, classically we expect the electron to collide with the sphere. So, it seems that the quantum and classics predict different behaviours!

Similar threads

Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
0
Views
1K
Back
Top