Does Group Order Not Divisible by 3 Ensure Commutativity if (ab)³ = a³b³?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Scigatt
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Group
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a finite group G whose order is not divisible by 3, with the condition that (ab)³ = a³b³ for all elements a, b in G. The goal is to explore whether this condition implies that G is abelian.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the properties of the homomorphism θ defined by θ(g) = g³ and its implications for the structure of G. There are attempts to show that θ is a bijection and to explore the consequences of this on the elements of G. Questions arise regarding the application of θ and its effects on the group elements.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various properties of the homomorphism and its implications for commutativity in G. Some participants have made progress in deriving relationships between elements, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps and reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of group theory, specifically considering the implications of group order and the properties of homomorphisms. The assumption that the order of G is not divisible by 3 is central to the discussion.

Scigatt
Messages
12
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Let G be a finite group whose order is not divisible by 3. Suppose (ab)3 = a3b3 ([itex]\forall[/itex]a,b[itex]\in[/itex]G)
Prove G must be abelian.

Known:
G is a finite group
o(G) not divisible by 3
(ab)3 = a3b3 for all a,b[itex]\in[/itex]G

Homework Equations


θ:G → G s.t. θ(g) = g3 [itex]\forall[/itex]g [itex]\in[/itex] G
Group axioms
Homomorphism properties
Lagrange's theorem
Modular arithmetic?

The Attempt at a Solution


From the facts given above, it's obvious that θ is a homomorphism. Since o(G) is not divisible by 3, then by Lagrange's Theorem, no subgroup of g has order 3. In particular, o(g) ≠ 3 [itex]\forall[/itex]g [itex]\in[/itex] G. This implies that [itex]\forall[/itex]g [itex]\in[/itex] G a3 = e iff a = e, therefore ker θ = {e}.

Then let a,b [itex]\in[/itex] G s.t. θ(a) = θ(b)
=> θ(ab-1) = θ(a)θ(b-1) = θ(a)θ(b)-1 = e
=> ab-1 [itex]\in[/itex] ker θ
=> ab-1 = e => a = b
Thus θ is 1-1.
Since G is finite, we can use the pigeonhole principle to prove θ is onto. Thus θ is a group automorphism. Since the set of all automorphisms of G is a group, then for any integer z, then θz is an automorphism of G.
If I can prove that either functions i(g) = g-1 or d(g) = g2 are in <θ>, then I'm done, but I don't think that's true in general. Other than that I don't know how to proceed further, though.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
this is an interesting problem!

applying θ to aba-1, we get:

ab3a-1 = a3b3a-3
b3 = a2b3a-2
b3a2 = a2b3

but θ is an automorphism (bijective), so every element of G is uniquely a cube.

that is, b3 = c for some unique c in G.

so a2c = ca2, for all a,c in G.

that is, a2b = ba2, for all a,b in G

now because (ab)3 = a3b3:

a(ba)2b = a(a2b2)b, so that

(ba)2 = a2b2.

starting from a2b = ba2, then, we get:

a2b2 = ba2b
(ba)2 = (ba)(ab)
ba = ab.
 
Deveno said:
this is an interesting problem!

applying θ to aba-1, we get:

ab3a-1 = a3b3a-3
b3 = a2b3a-2
b3a2 = a2b3

but θ is an automorphism (bijective), so every element of G is uniquely a cube.

that is, b3 = c for some unique c in G.

so a2c = ca2, for all a,c in G.

that is, a2b = ba2, for all a,b in G

now because (ab)3 = a3b3:

a(ba)2b = a(a2b2)b, so that

(ba)2 = a2b2.

starting from a2b = ba2, then, we get:

a2b2 = ba2b
(ba)2 = (ba)(ab)
ba = ab.


How'd you use θ to get ab3a-1 = a3b3a-3?
 
(aba-1)3 = (aba-1)(aba-1)(aba-1)

= ab(aa-1)b(aa-1)ba-1 = ab(e)b(e)ba-1

= ab3a-1,

that is θ(aba-1) = ab3a-1.

but θ is a homomorphism, θ(aba-1) = θ(a)θ(ba-1)

= θ(a)θ(b)θ(a-1) = a3b3(a-1)3

= a3b3a-3
 
Deveno said:
(aba-1)3 = (aba-1)(aba-1)(aba-1)

= ab(aa-1)b(aa-1)ba-1 = ab(e)b(e)ba-1

= ab3a-1,

that is θ(aba-1) = ab3a-1.

but θ is a homomorphism, θ(aba-1) = θ(a)θ(ba-1)

= θ(a)θ(b)θ(a-1) = a3b3(a-1)3

= a3b3a-3

Ok, thanks
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K