Does it look like I'm doing this double integral correctly?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a double integral, specifically focusing on the boundaries of integration and the use of polar coordinates. Participants are examining the correctness of their integration limits and the implications of changing coordinate systems.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the boundaries of integration for both Cartesian and polar coordinates, with some questioning the correctness of their setups. There are inquiries about potential sign errors in the results and the direction of integration in polar coordinates.

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The conversation includes various attempts to clarify integration boundaries and the implications of integrating in different directions. Some participants have offered guidance on correcting the bounds and addressing potential sign issues, while others are still seeking clarity on their results.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the integration limits and the sign of the results, with participants considering the effects of integrating in a clockwise versus counterclockwise direction. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their results not matching expected solutions.

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Homework Statement
{(x,y)∈R^2|x^2+y^2<=4, y<=x+2 }

integral of 8x dx dy
Relevant Equations
double integral
are the boundaries of integration correct?
i split the domain in two as follows

-2<=x<=0 , -(4-x^2)^(1/2)<y<=x+2 and
0<=x<=2 -(4-x^2)^(1/2)<=y<=(4-x^2)^(1/2)
 
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Looks all right.
 
if, concerning the one on the right, if I use polar coordinates, the boundaries of integration become
0<=r<= 2 and pi/2 <= ##\theta##<=-pi/2

is it correct doing so?
 
DottZakapa said:
if, concerning the one on the right, if I use polar coordinates, the boundaries of integration become
0<=r<= 2 and pi/2 <= ##\theta##<=-pi/2

is it correct doing so?

Yes, although you could include the third quadrant as well in that case: ##-\pi \le \theta \le \frac \pi 2##. And that simplifies the bounds on the other integral.
 
so i don't understand why my result doesn't match with the solution :(
 
DottZakapa said:
so i don't understand why my result doesn't match with the solution :(

What is your answer?
 
-32 the one on the left and -128/3 the one with polar coordinates
 
DottZakapa said:
-32 the one on the left and -128/3 the one with polar coordinates

The answer must be positive, as there is more positive ##x## than negative ##x## remaining. I think you got a sign wrong somewhere.
 
mind if i post the picture of my calculations? just to save typing time?
PeroK said:
The answer must be positive, as there is more positive ##x## than negative ##x## remaining. I think you got a sign wrong somewhere.
Do you mind if a post the picture of my calculations? just to save time
 
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DottZakapa said:
mind if i post the picture of my calculations? just to save typing time?

Do you mind if a post the picture of my calculations? just to save time
Okay by me.
 
  • #11
Just an idea, did you integrate ##\cos \theta## as ##-\sin \theta##?
 
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  • #13
You've got the bounds on the integral the wrong way round.
 
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could be that being integrating from pi/2 to -pi/2 should i put a minus sign in front of the integral due to the clock wise direction ?
 
  • #15
PeroK said:
You've got the bounds on the integral he wrong was round.
sorry I'm not getting what you are saying
 
  • #16
DottZakapa said:
could be that being integrating from pi/2 to -pi/2 should i put a minus sign in front of the integral due to the clock wise direction ?

The way ##\theta## is defined in polar coordinates, you integrate anti-clockwise. In this case from ##-\frac \pi 2## to ##\frac \pi 2##.
 
  • #17
DottZakapa said:
could be that being integrating from pi/2 to -pi/2 should i put a minus sign in front of the integral due to the clock wise direction ?

Yeah, but you didn't integrate ##r## from ##2## to ##0## and put a minus sign in front!
 
  • #18
ok integrating from -pi/2 to pi/2 and putting al together everything works thanks
 
  • #19
PeroK said:
You've got the bounds on the integral he wrong was round.
A couple typos here might have confused the OP. This should read "You've got the bounds on the integral the wrong way round."

@DottZakapa, keep in mind that ##\int_a^b f(x) dx = -int_b^a f(x) dx##, so if you integrate in the reverse direction, the sign of the result changes. That's what @PeroK was talking about in the quote above.
 

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