Does quantum entanglement in fact equal a wormhole?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between quantum entanglement and Einstein-Rosen bridges (wormholes), as proposed in recent theoretical papers. Participants explore the mathematical validity of these claims, potential experimental tests involving the Casimir effect, and the broader implications for quantum gravity and theoretical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a paper suggesting that quantum entanglement could be linked to Einstein-Rosen bridges, questioning the mathematical validity and experimental feasibility of this idea.
  • Another participant expresses confidence in the paper's authors but acknowledges the challenges in experimental verification of the claims.
  • Concerns are raised about the speculative nature of linking entanglement to relativistic structures and the existence of quantum gravity, with no consensus on these points.
  • Some participants note that the authors of the paper do not claim all entanglement results from relativistic features, but rather that exotic structures might exhibit entanglement.
  • There is a discussion about the speculative nature of the assertion "ER=EPR," with participants emphasizing that this is not established science and requires careful interpretation.
  • One participant argues that there is no established connection between known types of entanglement and black holes, highlighting the complexity of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and implications of the proposed connections between quantum entanglement and wormholes. There is no consensus on the claims made in the referenced papers, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of experimental tests and the theoretical foundations involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on advanced concepts in general relativity and quantum gravity, with participants noting the speculative nature of the claims and the challenges in testing them experimentally. Limitations in current understanding and the need for further exploration in theoretical physics are acknowledged.

Guthrie Prentice
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So I came across this paper claiming that quantum entanglement was an as yet not understood Einstein Rosen-Bridge: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.0533v2.pdf

I have two questions pertaining to this:

1. Does the math on this paper actually check out and is this possible?

2. Since this paper: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00981257/document seems to show experimentally that the Casimir effect can warp space time in a way that Kip Thorne predicted for wormholes, http://authors.library.caltech.edu/9262/1/MORprl88.pdf, could the quantum entanglement paper be tested by holding two entangled photons between plates to generate the Casimir effect, flood one of the photons with other photons and see if photons mysteriously appeared by the other entangled photon to test for wormhole activity?

I'm curious if such theoretical ideas are testable with our modern technology as I'm getting annoyed by hearing continously of the ongoing problems of unfalsifiability in theoretical physics.

Thanks.
 
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Guthrie Prentice said:
1. Does the math on this paper actually check out and is this possible?
I would say yes just because of the two authors. But "possible", since we're far from experimental checks as you say, isn't a big deal.
 
Guthrie Prentice said:
So I came across this paper claiming that quantum entanglement was an as yet not understood Einstein Rosen-Bridge: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.0533v2.pdf

I have two questions pertaining to this:

1. Does the math on this paper actually check out and is this possible?

2. Since this paper: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00981257/document seems to show experimentally that the Casimir effect can warp space time in a way that Kip Thorne predicted for wormholes, http://authors.library.caltech.edu/9262/1/MORprl88.pdf, could the quantum entanglement paper be tested by holding two entangled photons between plates to generate the Casimir effect, flood one of the photons with other photons and see if photons mysteriously appeared by the other entangled photon to test for wormhole activity?

I'm curious if such theoretical ideas are testable with our modern technology as I'm getting annoyed by hearing continously of the ongoing problems of unfalsifiability in theoretical physics.

Thanks.

Welcome to PhysicsForums, Guthrie!

There are a number of different issues being raised here. The authors are not saying that all entanglement is due to relativistic features such as an Einstein Rosen bridge. They are asserting that exotic relativistic structures could exhibit entanglement. They also speculate that quantum gravity exists. No one knows if that is true or not.

This is some fairly advanced material on the edge of theory. So you should expect that the experimental conditions to test these may not be feasible anytime soon.

As to problems of falsifiability in theoretical physics: there are plenty of things being checked out every day. Each scientist has their own path to follow. But the frontiers of science grow constantly, and this is a very exciting time in the areas of entanglement and of general relativity (now celebrating its 100th anniversery).
 
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DrChinese said:
The authors are not saying that all entanglement is due to relativistic features such as an Einstein Rosen bridge.

Hmm they are suggesting that: "ER=EPR [...] we are going to take the radical position that in a theory of quantum gravity they are inseparably linked, even for systems consisting of no more than a pair of entangled particles."
 
ddd123 said:
Hmm they are suggesting that: "ER=EPR [...] we are going to take the radical position that in a theory of quantum gravity they are inseparably linked, even for systems consisting of no more than a pair of entangled particles."

Yes I saw that. That is part of their speculation about quantum gravity. This is a complicated premise of theirs. I would not call it established science in any respect. The authors are well-respected. You really must take this paper in a special light, this is not at all intended for the usual discussion. If you don't follow the subject of advanced general relativity and quantum gravity closely, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

I would say that from the perspective of established science: there is absolutely no connection between any known type of entanglement and a pair of black holes.
 

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