Does reflection accompany refraction in Snell's law?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between reflection and refraction as described by Snell's Law, particularly in the context of mechanical waves in geological exploration. Participants explore whether reflection occurs when the angle of incidence is less than or equal to the Critical Angle, and how this might differ for various types of waves.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that when the angle of incidence is less than or equal to the Critical Angle, refraction occurs, but they question if reflection also takes place.
  • One participant draws an analogy to optical reflection, suggesting that reflection occurs in typical scenarios except under specific conditions like the Brewster angle.
  • Another participant clarifies that in their field of oil and gas exploration, the waves sent into the Earth can be either longitudinal or transverse, which may affect the reflection and refraction dynamics.
  • A question is raised about the applicability of the Brewster angle concept to mechanical waves in geological contexts, indicating uncertainty about its relevance across different wave types.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether reflection occurs alongside refraction in the case of mechanical waves, with some asserting reflection is always present while others question the conditions under which this holds true. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of reflection in the context of mechanical waves.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the distinction between longitudinal and transverse waves and the potential implications for reflection and refraction, but do not resolve how these factors interact with Snell's Law in practical scenarios.

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If the the angle of incidence of an incident ray is less than (or equal to) the Critical Angle, the ray is refracted, but do we still get some reflection from this same incident ray?
 
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Seismic101 said:
If the the angle of incidence of an incident ray is less than (or equal to) the Critical Angle, the ray is refracted, but do we still get some reflection from this same incident ray?
Hi Seismic101. :welcome:

Reflection like you see from a train window pane at night?
 
NascentOxygen said:
Hi Seismic101. :welcome:

Reflection like you see from a train window pane at night?

I am not sure. I wasn't really speaking about light although same principles apply, I guess? Please let me explain more.

In my field (O&G Exploration) we send vibrations into the Earth, and when this energy encounters the interface between Earth layers it follows Snell's Law. My question is: when the ray hits the interface at angle less than or equal to the Critical, we get refraction, but do we get some reflected rays as well?

I like the analogy you used! Thanks for the nice welcome!
 
Seismic101 said:
when the ray hits the interface at angle less than or equal to the Critical, we get refraction, but do we get some reflected rays as well?
In optics, when a ray of light hits an interface between two different media, reflection will always take place except for when the incident angle is equal to the Brewster angle and the incoming polarization lies in the incident plane. Since, the wave you are dealing with is of longitudinal waves where polarization is not relevant, I presume reflection will always take place regardless of any condition of the system.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Since, the wave you are dealing with is of longitudinal waves where polarization is not relevant
The vibrations (mechanical waves) we send into the Earth can be longitudinal (particle motion in the direction of wave propagation) or transverse (particle motion is perpendicular to the direction of wave propagation).

blue_leaf77 said:
except for when the incident angle is equal to the Brewster angle and the incoming polarization lies in the incident plane
Do you think this is true for any medium/ wave type? In other words, do you think there is a Brewster angle in the case of mechanical waves propagating through Earth layers?

Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 
maybe this will help ?

Seismic_Reflection_Principal.png

cheers
Dave
 

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