Does the focal length of a concave lens change in a different medium?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether the focal length of a concave lens changes when placed in a different medium, specifically water. Participants explore the implications of medium change on light behavior and lens properties, focusing on theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the focal length of a concave lens changes in water compared to air, initially stating a focal length of 20 cm in air.
  • Another participant suggests that the focal length will increase, reasoning that light rays diverge less in a more viscous medium, implying reduced refraction.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the idea that the focal length will get larger, but requests a more detailed explanation regarding the behavior of light rays and the significance of the lens type.
  • A participant provides a specific example involving an object placed 50 cm from the lens in air, producing an image at 33.33 cm, and asks what changes occur to the focal length in a different medium.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether the focal length of the concave lens increases or decreases in water, as participants present differing viewpoints and reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of medium properties on lens behavior, and there are unresolved questions regarding the specifics of light ray behavior in different media.

Clyner791
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My question is as follows:

Does the focal length of a concave lens change when put into a medium such as water?
Initially the focal length of the lens is 20 cm in air. Would it get larger or small in water?
 
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Hi Clyner791! :wink:

Tell us what you think, and then we'll comment! :smile:
 
I think the focal length will get larger. My reason for thinking this is because light rays diverge less in a more viscous medium? (I.e. they refract less?).
 
Clyner791 said:
I think the focal length will get larger. My reason for thinking this is because light rays diverge less in a more viscous medium? (I.e. they refract less?).

you'll need to explain it a lot better than that …

where is the image? where do the rays go?

what difference does it make whether it's concave or convex?​
 
In air: an object is placed 50 cm from the lens (concave) with a focal length 20cm. This produces an image 33.33 cm from the lens (again in air)

So, what change (if any) will occur to the focal length of the lens
 

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