Does the Refractive Index of Materials Change with Temperature and Wavelength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the variation of the refractive index of materials such as copper, zinc, aluminum, Teflon, and PMMA with temperature changes from room temperature to 100°C and from 77K to 300K. Participants explore the implications of temperature and wavelength on refractive index, seeking to understand the underlying principles and available data.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the refractive index of materials does depend on temperature, but specific temperature dependence across the entire range is not clearly defined.
  • One participant suggests that the main change in refractive index is due to thermal expansion, providing a mathematical approximation for calculating refractive index at different temperatures based on density.
  • Another participant questions the vagueness of the original question, specifically regarding the wavelength range of interest.
  • Links to external resources are provided for further exploration of refractive index data and related concepts.
  • A participant specifies interest in the 1550nm wavelength range for their inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the refractive index varies with temperature, but there is no consensus on the specifics of this relationship or the impact of wavelength. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the exact nature of these dependencies.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the lack of clarity on the specific wavelength range and the need for more context regarding the application of the refractive index in practical scenarios.

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Hello all,
I want to know that refractive index of materials like cooper, zinc, aluminium, teflon, PMMA varies with the application of heat from room to 100°C and for negative temperatures 77k to 300k.
thanks in advance.
 
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Welcome to PF;
The answer is yes - the refractive index of materials like that depend on temperature.
I don't know how you'd find out the specific temperature dependence of a material across the entire temperature range you are interested in - it is likely there will be useful information in an engineering and material science desk reference, and the rest will need a literature hunt. Teflon and PMMA are quite complicated but they are all well studied materials - I'd be surprised if the information was not available.

Some notes:
I am guessing you are not used to scientific conversations. One of the goals of this forum is to help people better communicate in a scientific way. To that end:

"a temperature of 77k" reads like this: "a temperature of 77000 Kelvin"
... because the lower case "k" is the metric prefix "kilo", and a temperature without explicit units is usually taken to be absolute "Kelvin".
(It is a very common shorthand to refer to kilo-something as a so-much "kay", with the actual unit implied by the situation.)
The SI symbol for "Kelvin" is an upper case "K".

It is not possible to have a negative temperature in Kelvins though. Presumably you are thinking of negative degrees centigrade?

300K would be a common approximation for "room temperature" - about 27degC, actually a tad on the warm side - but i.e. not negative.

In general, it is best to pick a unit and stick to it within the same bit of writing. Jumping around the units tends to lead to confusion ... or, at least, it makes the reader work harder than they need to.

* You wanted to know about the temperature range: 77 to 373K or -196 to 100 degC.
 
Hello Simon Bridge,
At first thanks for your valuable reply.
yeah i am not used to scientific conversations and its my first post on the forum.
Sorry for the confusion. its about the temperature range: 77 to 373K or -196 to 100 degC. i wanted to know.
i will follow up in future as you told.
thanks again
 
No worries - cannot expect everyone to get it right first time ... ;)
It would be possible to provide a better answer if we knew the context for the question.
 
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The index of refraction of these substances varies only little in this temperature range. The main change is due to thermal expansion. So if you find the value of ##n(T_1)## for some temperature ##T_1## and it's density ##\rho(T_1)## then the index of refraction at another temperature is in good approximation ##n(T_2)=n(T_1)\cdot \rho(T_2)/\rho(T_1)##.
 
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sjumesh said:
Hello all,
I want to know that refractive index of materials like cooper, zinc, aluminium, teflon, PMMA varies with the application of heat from room to 100°C and for negative temperatures 77k to 300k.
thanks in advance.

This question is too vague to answer- what wavelength range?

some links of relevance:
http://srdata.nist.gov/gateway/gateway?property=refractive+index&proft=Submit&rddesc=desc
http://www.nist.gov/pml/div685/grp03/theory_calculation.cfm
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...StOgtjkk_OvJ01w&bvm=bv.84349003,d.aWw&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=JvP0xwyYu8pKsumK3xbZdA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.aWw

Depending on what waveband you are interested in, you could search for 'permittivity' rather than 'refractive index', and 'thermo-optic coefficient' rather than 'temperature dependence'.
 
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Hello Andy,
thanks for your reply.
i will check the above mentioned links.
I use 1550nm wavelength range.
 

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